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Old 06-11-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Your post has no traction vsmoove. There is no right wing about the man. von Bruun was a lunatic who hated everyone equally. His hatred for Jews was matched by his hatred for Bush and Neo-Conservatives.

- » LIARS, MURDERERS,RATS, AND THIEVES. James von Brunn (http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/blog/?p=537 - broken link)
Ok, believe what you must... many extremists hated Bush and his ilk... doesn't mean that they are not right wing extremists...
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: PA
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You know, the one that Republicans got all upset about because it warned that with a bad economy, conservatives out of power, scare tactics being spread about Obama, etc., radical right-wing extremists might commit violent acts?

So far, we've had the guy who killed PA police officers because he thought Obama was taking away his guns, we've had a right-wing anti-abortion zealot kill a doctor in a church... and now, a white supremacist kills a guard at the Holocaust museum. Instead of fighting the thesis of that report, all sane and clear-minded Republicans should have supported it so that they are not lumped in with these fools. But as usual, petty posturing overrode common sense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/11shoot.html?hp
Little fact, every year these things happen by people, killing abortion doctors, white supremacist going crazy and Police Officers are killed everyday for many different reasons. More violent acts are created by gangs, drugs and other domestic issues then the so called "right wing" killings you just refered too. Lets not get all excited over a few nuts who kill in the name of hate or fear. I'm sure all over LA you can find gangs who kill over race everyday we dont hear about those because the federal government doesnt issue stupid political fear mongering reports to slander a "group" or idealogy.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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How does a neo-nazi fall on the left again Sanrene?
You obviously don't know what NAZI is short for...

National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialismus)
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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Right-wing extremism picked up the pace after the Branch Davidian incident in Waco, TX, and after the Ruby Ridge incident in Montana. Both cases of government overstepping its boundaries were cited as part of the reason McVeigh bombed OKC.

Today we have government overstepping boundaries in very different, but very much the same way, and to our detriment as a nation. As such, we are again seeing a rise in right-wing extremism. I think the parallels are quite obvious.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.
Rightwing Extremism:
Current Economic and Political
Climate Fueling Resurgence in
Radicalization and Recruitment
(http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf - broken link)

No not offensive at all....

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Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano apologized to veterans after a report issued by her department said troops returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were at risk for being recruited by right-wing extremists.

Janet Napolitano:
"To the extent veterans read it as an accusation ... an apology is owed,"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/napolitano-apologizes-offending-veterans-dhs-eyes-rightwing-extremism/ (broken link)

Do you still want to argue about the freaking report? I don't understand how you folks are almost always on the wrong side... Even when the freaking person in charge apologizes you folks still go on your liberal mantra. Do we remember the report? Yeah I remember the report and all the apologies afterwords do you?
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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The right wingers have been so brainwashed that they believe Muslim terrorists are left wingers. Sanrene claims to believe Nazis are left wingers, and maybe to her they are.
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"They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets,"
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Iran's economy is marked by an inefficient state sector, reliance on the oil sector, which provides the majority of government revenues, and statist policies, which create major distortions throughout the system. Most economic activity is controlled by the state. Private sector activity is typically limited to small-scale workshops, farming, and services. Price controls, subsidies, and other rigidities weigh down the economy, undermining the potential for private-sector-led growth. Significant informal market activity flourishes. Corruption and shortages of goods are widespread.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/IR.html (broken link)


Hmmmm... which party is taking on this nasty route?
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by vsmoove View Post
You know, the one that Republicans got all upset about because it warned that with a bad economy, conservatives out of power, scare tactics being spread about Obama, etc., radical right-wing extremists might commit violent acts?

So far, we've had the guy who killed PA police officers because he thought Obama was taking away his guns, we've had a right-wing anti-abortion zealot kill a doctor in a church... and now, a white supremacist kills a guard at the Holocaust museum. Instead of fighting the thesis of that report, all sane and clear-minded Republicans should have supported it so that they are not lumped in with these fools. But as usual, petty posturing overrode common sense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/11shoot.html?hp

The main problem with the report is that so much of it identifies groups for special scrutiny by law enforcement for engaging in legal and often Constitutionally protected activities. Much of the report details concerns that those who support first, second, ninth, tenth and fourteenth amendments are people that should be watched. Those who support these amendments understand that it is government that must be diligently watched. The crimes that have been committed lately are nothing new and hardly uncommon, but the opportunity the left has to strip away our rights is a rare one that I just don't see them passing up. The left has never been above a ruse to get what they desire. This is no acception.

Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Rightwing Extremism:
Current Economic and Political
Climate Fueling Resurgence in
Radicalization and Recruitment
(http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf - broken link)

No not offensive at all....


Napolitano Apologizes for Offending Veterans After DHS Eyes Them for 'Rightwing Extremism' - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/napolitano-apologizes-offending-veterans-dhs-eyes-rightwing-extremism/ - broken link)

Do you still want to argue about the freaking report? I don't understand how you folks are almost always on the wrong side... Even when the freaking person in charge apologizes you folks still go on your liberal mantra. Do we remember the report? Yeah I remember the report and all the apologies afterwords do you?
The report still stands. Just the footnote, was apologized for. The report wasn't re-written.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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You obviously don't know what NAZI is short for...

National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialismus)
Un-huh....might be the name, but they are still right wing.

I can see it now, Neo-nazi's hugging trees, wearing flowers and eatting tofu.........
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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The main problem with the report is that so much of it identifies groups for special scrutiny by law enforcement for engaging in legal and often Constitutionally protected activities. Much of the report details concerns that those who support first, second, ninth, tenth and fourteenth amendments are people that should be watched. Those who support these amendments understand that it is government that must be diligently watched. The crimes that have been committed lately are nothing new and hardly uncommon, but the opportunity the left has to strip away our rights is a rare one that I just don't see them passing up. The left has never been above a ruse to get what they desire. This is no acception.

Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment
The left has never been above a ruse to strip away rights? Do you have any historical context for that statement? I agree that overstepping is a problem but the main example I can think of is J. Edgar Hoover and the right's abuse of the police system to track and abuse civil rights groups and other left-leaning entities in the 60s and 70s.
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