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Old 06-11-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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Pelosi, during the press conference, also rejected a compromise proposal by Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) to create private, nonprofit, regional health care cooperatives instead of a national public option.Pelosi: Health Care Reform Can't Pass Without Public Option
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It shouldn't pass without a public option.

I am sick of some of these "representatives" saying we all will have tax credits to go towards purchasing our own health care. Screw that bs.

Single payer health care for all and now!!
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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It shouldn't pass without a public option.

I am sick of some of these "representatives" saying we all will have tax credits to go towards purchasing our own health care. Screw that bs.

Single payer health care for all and now!!
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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I would be all for single payer but a public option is probably more likely. After all, another alternative will keep the playing field a little more competitive with the insurance industry. Insurance for all is the administrations plan and I am all for it!
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think this should be addressed on the state level....not on the federal level.

It's unlikely that a radical reform will pass.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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GREEN BAY, Wis. – President Barack Obama Thursday made his strongest pitch yet for sweeping health-care reform by year’s end, drawing on campaign-style tactics and rhetoric and taking sharp aim at critics of his proposed “public option” plan. This is really where Obama excells and that is at these town hall meetings.Read more: President Obama: Health insurance a 'moral imperative' - Carol E. Lee - POLITICO.com
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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^From your link:

"And he hit on federal spending, repeating his administration’s line that his health care bill will not add to the deficit over 10 years."

How can you add 46 miilion people, the vast majority of whom will receive subsidized health insurance, to the system without raising costs?

What specific increases in taxes and cuts in services will have to be implemented to pay for it?

He's long on rhetoric and short on figures, that's why he's out in campaign mode once again.

I'd love to have a federal option, but at what price? What will the premium be? I'd like to see him have a definite plan in place before he shoots his mouth off. Anything that will be unpopular (like taxing health benefits) will be introduced by Congress to keep Obama loved and revered.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Without the public option, the reform would be worthless. I would prefer total single payer myself so the public option is already a compromise as it is. But it needs to stay in there. Otherwise forget it.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And he's just finished saying we are spending too much.

Bigger question..how will they keep the illegal out ? Who do they plan to subsidize and you know they will subsidize. Can of worms..like food stamps, welfare and medicaid...totally out of control cost-wise.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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^From your link:

"And he hit on federal spending, repeating his administration’s line that his health care bill will not add to the deficit over 10 years."

How can you add 46 miilion people, the vast majority of whom will receive subsidized health insurance, to the system without raising costs?

What specific increases in taxes and cuts in services will have to be implemented to pay for it?

He's long on rhetoric and short on figures, that's why he's out in campaign mode once again.

I'd love to have a federal option, but at what price? What will the premium be? I'd like to see him have a definite plan in place before he shoots his mouth off. Anything that will be unpopular (like taxing health benefits) will be introduced by Congress to keep Obama loved and revered.
It will cost about $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years estimated. Even if it cost $2 trillion, the Iraq war alone probably will end up costing that and more. As for where to get the money- part of it should come from all of us with a "health tax" of 1.5% for us and 1.5% from the employer that would apply to everybody. The rest should come from taxes on unhealthy foods and sugary soft drinks that cause so much diabetis and heart disease.
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