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I live in a democrat city that definitely leans liberal but some of my neighbors are Conservative Republicans, the men mostly. And the general population is about 30 to 40% Conservative. So how far can these liberal minded people get from Conservatives that will make them happy? Do they feel that they cannot win a debate with a Conservative? What are they afraid of?
I can reason with many real conservatives (winning debates is disruptive and mostly meaningless but changing minds is important) but find the many "true believers" are not amenable to any argument that challenges their belief system.
I am not afraid of argument but I am afraid of neocon economic policies that set up our recent financial bubble that has resulted in our current economic collapse. I am also afraid of "conservative" Presidents that use deceptive means to garner support for illegal overseas military adventures for the benefit of some of their tyrannical friends like the Saudi Royals and their corporate supporters.
I am not intolerant of thoughtful conservatives but I have very little use for the Rabble Roused by Rush and deluded into a false, but emotionally secure, reality.
I have found most of my liberal friends to be quite tolerant of reasonable conservative thoughts and political positions.
I can reason with many real conservatives (winning debates is disruptive and mostly meaningless but changing minds is important) but find the many "true believers" are not amenable to any argument that challenges their belief system.
I am not afraid of argument but I am afraid of neocon economic policies that set up our recent financial bubble that has resulted in our current economic collapse. I am also afraid of "conservative" Presidents that use deceptive means to garner support for illegal overseas military adventures for the benefit of some of their tyrannical friends like the Saudi Royals and their corporate supporters.
I am not intolerant of thoughtful conservatives but I have very little use for the Rabble Roused by Rush and deluded into a false, but emotionally secure, reality.
I have found most of my liberal friends to be quite tolerant of reasonable conservative thoughts and political positions.
Is that a 2 way street? Would you tolerate a Democrat president doing the same thing?
[quote=ELOrocks17;9302398][quote=Casper in Dallas;9302283]
So far, All I have heard is that Obama's legal status is in dispute. Then you have not been paying attention to Rush and his bunch nor reading any discussion boards or rightwing web sites, otherwise you might not be 100% truthful there. Considering how rabid the leftwing media was regarding Bush's elegibility to be President over the National guard AWOL documents, It hardly seems unreasonable that conservatives would take the same tack. And he never produced any records that explained his time "away", since you believe he in compliance then do not fault others for doing the same. Especially since no Republican lawmakers are making an issue of his BC.As far as the other "Examples" I have not heard anyone from FOX mention those. As I said, FOX is not the only means of spreading rummors, accusations and outright lies. [/quote]
Casper
I don't think you recognize what has happened the past 6 months, at all.
Actually, since I live here, I do. I also know what happened in the last 8 years we've suffered. My father, a wise libertarian, is the one who gave me & my siblings that great bit of advice. If he's not flapping his hands, then no one should.
Actually, since I live here, I do. I also know what happened in the last 8 years we've suffered. My father, a wise libertarian, is the one who gave me & my siblings that great bit of advice. If he's not flapping his hands, then no one should.
And tell me Kafar...what hardships have you personally suffered over the last 8 years?
And tell me Kafar...what hardships have you personally suffered over the last 8 years?
the continued environmental destruction, the patriot act, the administration's "if you're not w/us, you're w/the terrorists", the degradation of our relationships w/our allies & how the rest of the world viewed our country on that watch
the continued environmental destruction, the patriot act, the administration's "if you're not w/us, you're w/the terrorists", the degradation of our relationships w/our allies & how the rest of the world viewed our country on that watch
So what you are saying is that even though you were "suffering" sleepless nights because France didnt like us, You still had 3 sqare meals a day, a roof over your head, able to drive your car, going out to party on Friday, having a job. Can you say that now?
So what you are saying is that even though you were "suffering" sleepless nights because France didnt like us, You still had 3 sqare meals a day, a roof over your head, able to drive your car, going out to party on Friday, having a job. Can you say that now?
Hmm, sure...but waaait a minute here. Wasn't this you that just posted this on another thread?
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17
Good lord...how far does our country have to sink before idiotic liberals start thinking of the country, instead of only themselves?
Holy s**t, the hypocrisy just never ends!
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