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What about the punitive aspect? Do you remember anything about that in the previous case? Cause I'm thinking that would have to be a part of it; wrongful death isn't really about what revenue you've lost from losing the person, IMO.
Looks like a crack w***e to me! Who in their right mind would PAY HER to have sex with em?
Probably perverts who just want someone to abuse.
Or maybe other homeless people.
I have no idea.
It's absolutely pathetic that someone didn't help her while there was still time.
To retain my faith in humanity, I must believe that the judge who looked in that face and sentenced this poor old retarded lady to prison for "prostitution" was doing his/her level best to help her by getting her off the streets, and was unaware of the abusive practices within the prison system.
Yes, that's true I think. Damages would be a hard thing to prove. However, like I said, the jury could award $1.00 if they wanted. Of course, there is the stumbling block of getting the case in court to start with regarding the damages and loss to the family.
However, if this case does not result in some sort of court action, then it will just be forgotten, and Arizona DOC can and WILL continue with their inhumane treatment of inmates, to the point of actually having inmates die as a result of their methods and procedures for maintenance of the inmates.
Have you ever heard of the Frank Valdez case?
I don't suppose you've considered that this might be a rare case and perhaps the guards even 'forgot' about her for an inexcusable length of time....or this is a practise which others have borne up under quite well?
There are such things as mistakes in judgement and plain old mistakes.
I don't suppose you've considered that this might be a rare case and perhaps the guards even 'forgot' about her for an inexcusable length of time....or this is a practise which others have borne up under quite well?
There are such things as mistakes in judgement and plain old mistakes.
According to the testimony of another inmate who was there that day, Powell asked for water repeatedly, and various guards kept saying they were busy and would deal with it in a minute.
I don't suppose you've considered that this might be a rare case and perhaps the guards even 'forgot' about her for an inexcusable length of time....or this is a practise which others have borne up under quite well?
There are such things as mistakes in judgement and plain old mistakes.
I don't see that as a pass here. The article said the guards were less than 20 feet away; they didn't forget her nor did they mistakenly leave her there. I don't believe they intended her to die but it's obvious that weren't concerned about her getting out of the heat or having water. If it was a judgment issue, than it's one that should cost them their jobs.
I don't see that as a pass here. The article said the guards were less than 20 feet away; they didn't forget her nor did they mistakenly leave her there. I don't believe they intended her to die but it's obvious that weren't concerned about her getting out of the heat or having water. If it was a judgment issue, than it's one that should cost them their jobs.
More than their jobs. It should cost them and/or the DOC some money. It should also cost them a few years of their freedom.
Hey, maybe if the temporary ban on the cages is lifted, they can get to experience life in an unshaded cage without water themselves.
For the record, I'm not saying I want them to die like this woman did, nor am I saying that the ban should be lifted; it should become permanent. It would, however, be quite ironic if they were sentenced to imprisonment and put in one of the things.
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I don't suppose you've considered that this might be a rare case and perhaps the guards even 'forgot' about her for an inexcusable length of time....or this is a practise which others have borne up under quite well?
There are such things as mistakes in judgement and plain old mistakes.
In such a system, one is not ALLOWED "plain old mistakes" when lives are at stake. The "system" cannot "forget" someone who is in a life-threatening situation. There have to be civil and criminal penalties for such things.
I'd like to have proof that the Arizona DOC is responsible in carrying out their public trust...........and I would like to know if this case is a "rare" case. Actually, it should be THE ONLY CASE, however, I seriously doubt that it is. Inmates who have no family connections, no friends, can easily die in prisons (for whatever reason) and simply be buried and forgotten.
Seems to me that this case is one which "slipped out" into the public before they could stop it.
Does anyone know how long Arizona has been using cages for imprisonment of inmates?
[quote=natalayjones;9287394]I don't see that as a pass here. The article said the guards were less than 20 feet away; they didn't forget her nor did they mistakenly leave her there. I don't believe they intended her to die but it's obvious that weren't concerned about her getting out of the heat or having water. If it was a judgment issue, than it's one that should cost them their jobs.[/quote]
Agreed, as well as charges of some sort.
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