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Old 06-14-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Originally Posted by Keedy View Post
Well, no matter what you think of Cheney...you really think Reid or Pelosi would stand a snowball's chance in hell against him in a real debate? Be serious...
Absolutely. As long has Cheney's lies could be fact-checked in real time.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:24 PM
 
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Absolutely. As long has Cheney's lies could be fact-checked in real time.
You are not contributing anything by calling people liars. Did I mention anything about Pelosi lying and that she should have resigned her post as speaker?
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:24 PM
 
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"Nice mom, probably a decent person but I have yet since the moment it was announced she would be vice president candidate utter one coherent point about any U.S. related policy that wasn't regurgitated republican talking points."

Got a predicate to go with your fragment?

If you depend on MSM anchors to tell you what you think, you never will hear her say anything substantive. If, on the other hand, you listen to what she says or read a transcript, you'll see what her supporters do.

Groucho Marx asked the question, "Do you believe me or your own eyes?"

In this case you can simply read the original transcript.

ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview | NewsBusters.org
Lol, they did her a favor editing that: it was inane, repetitive gibberish except for two controversial McCain talking points: suggesting Ukraine become part of NATO and that the US should go to war for Georgia.

I wouldnt be surprised if the McCain camp put the kibosh on all that after hearing/viewing it. She comes across as far less stupid without it.

Another example of Palin repeating the same old talking points -- in fact a situation where she was finally just directed to stay on a few familiar ones and dont get off them -- is the VP debate with Biden, the format of which had to be adjusted to accommodate her ineptitude, transcript here:

Transcript of Palin, Biden debate - CNN.com
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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You are not contributing anything by calling people liars. Did I mention anything about Pelosi lying and that she should have resigned her post as speaker?
Cheney lies nonstop.

- Torture gave us information to stop the LA attack

- Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda

- Iraq had WMDs

Pelosi hasn't lied at all. Unless you believe the people who are covering their behinds because they just might be tried for torturing people.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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Cheney lies nonstop.

- Torture gave us information to stop the LA attack

- Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda

- Iraq had WMDs

Pelosi hasn't lied at all. Unless you believe the people who are covering their behinds because they just might be tried for torturing people.
So, where are the lies????????
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I don't agree with you about Lisa Murkowski. She was appointed to that job by her father, and later Alaskans voted for her because she was a better choice than the Democrat running against her. Her father has been quite a controversial figure, even with Alaskans, and lost his his governorship to Palin. A large group of voters in Alaska, usually the ones that swing elections one way or the other, are "undeclared" and sort of independent. Most conservatives tolerate and see Lisa as a liberal Republican.
Ok, maybe. I was thinking in a general election, forgetting that Palin and Murkowski, in all probability, would only face each other in a primary. I forget, does Alaska have open or closed primaries?

Admittedly, I'm down here now and not up there, but I had heard that Murkowski was coming into her own and getting some respect. Yeah, here are the ADN polls from March Alaska Politics Blog : Palin, Murkowski popularity | adn.com Murkowski's total positives are higher and total negatives are lower than Palins. But that's a general public poll, not just Republicans which brings us back to they would only meet in a primary.
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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For not supporting Sarah Palin. Nice mom, probably a decent person but I have yet since the moment it was announced she would be vice president candidate utter one coherent point about any U.S. related policy that wasn't regurgitated republican talking points. Her interviews make me cringe. Does the republican party have any other females that can articulate a point and message without handlers stepping in?
McCain laid down, after Bush the republicans lose. Do you get it? They take turns and keep out the third party.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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I would hate for Palin to get into the whitehouse even on a tour much less the presidency. Anyone who believes she will be beamed up to god should not be allowed near nuclear weopons. Ever.

Now, I do have a problem with her being described first as a 'nice mom'.
First of all because I don't believe she is a 'nice mom' judging by the way she handled her dds pregnancy. But in all honesty to describe her first as a 'nice mom' is somewhat sexist. I mean, would anyone say 'I disagree with Obama, but he seems like a nice dad..." or "I don't like hillary, but she seems like a 'nice mom'"
No. It is a linguistic attempt to diminish her credibility based on large part on her sex.
Which is puzzling because there is so much more material with which to discredit her with.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:36 PM
 
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But in all honesty to describe her first as a 'nice mom' is somewhat sexist. I mean, would anyone say 'I disagree with Obama, but he seems like a nice dad..." or "I don't like hillary, but she seems like a 'nice mom'"
No. It is a linguistic attempt to diminish her credibility based on large part on her sex.
During a debate with Rick Lazio, Hillary Clinton was asked to say something nice about him. She said, "I think he's a good father and he has a nice family." So, I think it does work both ways.
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Old 06-15-2009, 06:30 AM
 
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Name a couple from each party that you think could beat Palin in a race for public office.
Umm... are we talking animal, vegetable or mineral?
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