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Old 06-19-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: DC area
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I don't smoke pot so this wouldn't change my life at all. Having said that, legalize it by god. They are never, ever going to win a war against pot. It is no more harmful than alcohol and given that legalize it and tax the heck out of it like they do everything else. Since tons of people buy it regardless of whether it is legal or not they might as well make money off it.

But...I fully expect certain Republican representatives to lose their minds over this and do everything in their power to squash it.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: NC
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I don't care if it is legalized. As long as the consequences of its use come down like a hammer when it results in travesty. First person that says "but I was stoned" I think we should put a bullet in their head. Don't think I feel the same way about people who drink and excuse it when they act like idiots.
Reefer madness anyone? Despite it being illegal a majority of Americans have done or currently smoke weed. The consequences you speak of would have already happened if they were going to.

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I can't wait to hear the elegant arguments from the too stupid to breathe when the anti-smoking claims come up. Again, when they complain and demand special treatment, a bullet to the head will suffice. Society has enough hypocrites and stupid people to have yet more proclaim "Pot good, tobacco bad".
Interestingly enough all the pot smokers I know also smoke cigars, hookah tobacco, cigarettes or cloves and I am thinking that might be the case more generally, but I would have to see a study to know. It is best not to confuse big government, anti-privacy liberals with pro-pot people who tend, to have a more libertarian view of liberalism. You will find a lot of the same divisions among liberals in regards to discussions on right to privacy and regulating violence in video games.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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I don't care if it is legalized. As long as the consequences of its use come down like a hammer when it results in travesty. First person that says "but I was stoned" I think we should put a bullet in their head. Don't think I feel the same way about people who drink and excuse it when they act like idiots.

I can't wait to hear the elegant arguments from the too stupid to breathe when the anti-smoking claims come up. Again, when they complain and demand special treatment, a bullet to the head will suffice. Society has enough hypocrites and stupid people to have yet more proclaim "Pot good, tobacco bad".
yes.. just like in Holland and other countries where its legal. people get away with murder by saying "i was high" all the time..

its people like you the reason its legal

none of us are saying pot is "good" at least not in a healthy sense. we all know its gooooooood HAHAHAH. we are saying why is this highly addictive and destructive substance and drug (substance cigarette and drug nicotine) while marijuana is illegal??!?!
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:02 PM
 
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"I was (insert appropriate term for condition of impairment)" iis not a defense. I thought it was established we were talking about legalizing the responsible use of cannabis by adults. Killing people is not responsible.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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Smoking pot is actually healthier than smoking cigarettes.
Thats not what I heard. It five times more deadly than cigaretts beside being a gateway drug.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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Thats not what I heard. It five times more deadly than cigaretts beside being a gateway drug.
It'd be interesting to see what unbiased research would turn up.

Considering that they're two entirely different substances and people have different smoking habits (those who smoke pot as opposed to vaporizing or eating it, that is) so it's not easy to keep it apples to apples. More potent pot means you smoke less, which might undermine the whole claim about more potency meaning more harm.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:13 PM
 
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Thats not what I heard. It five times more deadly than cigaretts beside being a gateway drug.
The true gateway drugs are the ones that can be bought in mini-marts in most states...alcohol and nicotine.

I prefer not to smoke it though but would rather whip up a batch of tasty baked goods.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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It'd be interesting to see what unbiased research would turn up.

Considering that they're two entirely different substances and people have different smoking habits (those who smoke pot as opposed to vaporizing or eating it, that is) so it's not easy to keep it apples to apples. More potent pot means you smoke less, which might undermine the whole claim about more potency meaning more harm.
How are the industries that test their employees going to react if this stupid bill in passed? How we really going to trust people not to smoke when they are addicted to pot? What happens when pot no longer give people that sweet high? What are the chances that they use ever more powerful drugs? This whole thing sticks even more than the pot itself.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:18 PM
 
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The true gateway drugs are the ones that can be bought in mini-marts in most states...alcohol and nicotine.

I prefer not to smoke it though but would rather whip up a batch of tasty baked goods.
You could even take it a step further and say the original gateway drug is caffeine.

The whole "gateway" theory is bunk, unless you count the fact that the underground dealers who sell pot because it's illegal are also selling cocaine and other stuff. Of course, when I was underage, I couldn't buy any booze or cigs but I had no problem whatsoever scoring a bag of weed. No ID, fake or otherwise, necessary.

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How are the industries that test their employees going to react if this stupid bill in passed?
They still always probationers to profit off of, if nothing else.

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How we really going to trust people not to smoke when they are addicted to pot?
What happens when pot no longer give people that sweet high? What are the chances that they use ever more powerful drugs?[/quote]

10 years later I haven't moved on to hard drugs or anything like that. So much for that gateway BS.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:19 PM
 
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The tobacco and alcohol corporations won't like it either.
Actually with the move to put tobacco under FDA and pretty much try to put the cig manufacturers out of biz a switch to joints might be just what they need to keep afloat. I wonder what the new marlborough man will look like? How many of you would walk a mile for a new camel?
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