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Old 06-19-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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The degree in which a controlled substance can make a person addicted by general and frequent use. Its one of the reasons why pot is considered a gateway drug.
Oh, you mean "addictiveness." Glad to see you're well versed on the subject.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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I must admit I googled "addictedness"...its a noun lol

Addictedness - definition of Addictedness by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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I am quite aware of its function and if you think it does not have an effect on ability to function normally, then you argue the case of a drunk claiming he can drive fine. I have a certification in POST (Police Officers Standards of Training) and understand not only its long term physical effects, but its short term effects in use. I also have used it myself and am aware from an inside perspective as well. Pot head logic fails on me, sorry try again.
Marijuana impairs function. That is well known and not the point. The question is should it be legalized. I am simply stating that the illegal usage is already prevalent enough that if catastrophic problems were to occur they more than likely already would have.

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I am sure they differ in groups. I have known those who have done both as well. I also have known those who swear tobacco is harmful and pot is not. Although, I must admit their understanding of basic chemistry is extremely poor. The fact remains that even on this board in the "anti-tobacco" forums, I have heard bone heads claim Pot to be less harmful when in fact it contains the same carcinogens as tobacco minus the specifics between them (THC vs Nicotine).

As I said, I really do not care if people smoke it. My problem is in the brain dead idiots who attempt to claim differences between them when they couldn't figure out their head from their ass.
I am not a person on an anti-tobacco website. I in fact oppose and continue to oppose the recent smoking ban North Carolina placed on bars and dining establishments. I will however stay that because of the frequency of tobacco use and the fact that it has very low intoxicating effect it is used more often and will be used more often then Marijuana, and as such will be more dangerous to health simply because of the fact that more smoke and crap you put in your lungs the better chance it will kill you.

As to brain dead idiots there are and will always be a lot of them regardless of the laws on pot. Just as we lock up people who are violent when they are drunk or drive and/or operate machinary while drunk. We should lock up people who commit crimes under the influence of weed.

I hope this helps explain my first post.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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Oh, you mean "addictiveness." Glad to see you're well versed on the subject.
Not as well as some of pots users.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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Not as well as some of pots users.
Obviously.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:51 PM
 
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The degree in which a controlled substance can make a person addicted by general and frequent use. Its one of the reasons why pot is considered a gateway drug.
I again cite this website look at the dependence level of marijuana as opposed to other drugs it is lower then that of caffeine. It is a gateway drug because of economics pure and simple.

SAFER - Alcohol vs. Marijuana
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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Obviously.
Reason always takes a back seat to self interest. I hate to burst your bubble but it's never going to happen. Obama would be signing his political death if he ever put his signature to this bill.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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Reason always takes a back seat to self interest.
That's the story of the "drug war," in a nutshell.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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That's the story of the "drug war," in a nutshell.
Yes, from the producer all the way down to the user.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:01 PM
 
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Reason always takes a back seat to self interest. I hate to burst your bubble but it's never going to happen. Obama would be signing his political death if he ever put his signature to this bill.
Can you answer this question..in what state is the personal use of marijuana legal according to the state Constitution?
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