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Old 06-20-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: mancos
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They why are you so upset that there is no voucher system?
because some parents cant afford the sacrifices i went through and want the best for thier children and gov schools suk they are controlled by the teachers union who get thier marching orders from the gov. i never went to a gov school not even one day and i left my gov school neighbors in the dust from day one. been working since i was 12 yrs old. never learned to depend on the gov. made my own way and very well i must add.people will never know what they can do if it is handed to them and they dont have to work for it.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:57 PM
 
Location: southern california
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it needs to be said.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Hangin' with the bears.
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because some parents cant afford the sacrifices i went through and want the best for thier children and gov schools suk they are controlled by the teachers union who get thier marching orders from the gov. i never went to a gov school not even one day and i left my gov school neighbors in the dust from day one. been working since i was 12 yrs old. never learned to depend on the gov. made my own way and very well i must add.people will never know what they can do if it is handed to them and they dont have to work for it.
Woop de do! Most of us successful Americans including our President worked our azzes off to be where we are today. If you want to improve the school systems, look to state government. When balancing their budgets the first thing they cut are resources for education. How many times have the citizens voted down increased taxes for better education? Blame the unions all you want but it's the 'no higher taxes' mentality that hurts the educational systems.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: 95468
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We? What "we" might you be referring to?
The 'red' army.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Hangin' with the bears.
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The 'red' army.
Native Americans?
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:32 PM
 
Location: mancos
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then say something not just naner-naner
now that was really eye opening you should be praised for your deep intelect
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:49 PM
 
Location: 95468
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it seems as time goes on there is less and less a father can do for his children. the gov controls the schools,laws are passed how we can dicipline them.drugs are forced on them,as well as the new visions of social engeneering. it was an uphill battle to keep my daughters away from the gov will do it for you cause they know better than your parents bunk.we need to feel needed and the gov is taking that away a piece at a time. they are trying to replace us then wonder where we are? well duh proud single Dad
Who needs dads when we have 'role models'.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:52 PM
 
Location: 95468
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Native Americans?
Never saw a red one. Brown, drunk, but not red.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:06 PM
 
Location: 95468
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Of course this won't happen. They will constantly quote Bill Cosby all day long because of the way he delivered the message in discust which mirrors their true feelings.

When the message is delivered with a positive spin and included everyone they can't deal with it because it conflicts with their gut feelings.
You people dropped the Cos
like a pair of work gloves
when he spoke the truth.

Spin = to distort the true meaning in order to deceive.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:38 PM
 
Location: 95468
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As someone who is in the advertising field, let me give you some advice... When you tell a blatantly obvious lie like the one I bolded above, it undermines the believability of your entire argument to your audience. Or doesn't being a lawyer count as working and earning your own money in bizarro world?

And there are plenty of ex-druggies and alcoholics that are good dads. Or did you think that all of the people who used drugs during the 60s or recovered from alcoholism were horrible parents? Heck, there have been Presidents who suffered from alcohol dependence while they served. Nixon comes to mind.
So you see a lie where I see shorthand for 'he was never a working man'
as in pain, sweat and paying bills in the way most of us understand it.
As to 'undermined believability' I can't say I've ever seen someones
believability ever ever change anyone's mind in these exchanges.
As far as D and A abuse being irrelevant in your bizarro world it isn't
in the real one.
And by the way, that's President Nixon.
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