Jesus believed in Universal Healthcare (supporter, California, percentage, world)
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Jesus' comment did not intimate stealing. In fact, the way it was stated..."...what IS Caesar's..." seems to be saying that that money was already Caesar's, even while still in the person's own pocket. Right? It "...IS Caesar's." (Just like what is God's is already God's, as in the second half of the quote.)
He didn't mention or even hint at taxes--even dirty rotten shameful blah blah blah contemporary Roman ones--being stealing. Again, what can I say? If you don't like it, there's not much you or I can do about it except not follow the religion if we disagree in it.
But anyone here who purports to be a Christian but doesn't want to follow Jesus' rules and values may have more of a problem. It may seem irritating to them. If it is, I don't know what to tell you.
This particular passage Mark 3:7-12 inspired me to create a bumper sticker on one of those create your own bumper sticker websites and I've received some interesting reactions from it. Most people like the sticker and some don't. It's interesting that pro-life supporters point to the scriptures as a basis for their argument. Well according to the scripture Jesus healed thousands of people, from the officials dying son, to the leper, the paralyzed man, the blind man at Bethsaida etc etc... Jesus never turned anyone away because of a pre-existing condition. He never sent anyone insurmountable bills that ultimately led to financial futility. He never rationed healthcare to those who could afford it, while excluding those who could not, and in his eyes healthcare was not a luxury, it was simply the Christian thing to do.
I am absolutely convinced that one cannot be a Christian and oppose comprehensive healthcare reform that would cover millions of sick and uninsured Americans.
jesus is nothing but a myth. Keep religion out of politics
jesus is nothing but a myth. Keep religion out of politics
Well, I can understand the point of the OP, though. And frankly, religion is in politics, one way or another, no matter what the original intent was to separate the two. It does seep in there.
Jesus' comment did not intimate stealing. In fact, the way it was stated..."...what IS Caesar's..." seems to be saying that that money was already Caesar's, even while still in the person's own pocket. Right? It "...IS Caesar's." (Just like what is God's is already God's, as in the second half of the quote.)
He didn't mention or even hint at taxes--even dirty rotten shameful blah blah blah contemporary Roman ones--being stealing. Again, what can I say? If you don't like it, there's not much you or I can do about it except not follow the religion if we disagree in it.
But anyone here who purports to be a Christian but doesn't want to follow Jesus' rules and values may have more of a problem. It may seem irritating to them. If it is, I don't know what to tell you.
So Christians are to ignore the Commandments when it fits their agenda? Might as well not keep that pesky Old Testament around at all then.
So Christians are to ignore the Commandments when it fits their agenda? Might as well not keep that pesky Old Testament around at all then.
Well, yeah, obviously that's the intimation here. Frankly I feel Jesus, if he existed, or at least how he was portrayed in the NT, was an absolutely flaming liberal who wandered around barefoot, consorted with hookers and deadbeats, had no job and told people to give what they had away. But this is a question that's been batted back and forth quite a bit here on CD. If you do a search you'll find quite a few threads on it.
I feel there are many conservative values and/or tenets that are in direct opposition to huge chunks of what Jesus is supposed to have taught but again...that's something for the religious person him or herself to resolve. I can't really point fingers since I'm not involved in the religion. But yes. According to scripture it would seem Jesus believed in giving money to the government, no matter how it wound up being spent. So there you have it.
Again, not sure how this would relate to universal health care.
I do know that (according to the story) he believed in giving as much as one could v. tithing (or, for example, a "set tax"). He did believe people who made more money should give more. This is evidenced by the passage that talks about the old woman who gave one coin or something like that, and Jesus commenting that it was more than a rich man had previously given (a bag of coins or what-have-you) because it was all she had...IOW, a bigger percentage of her income or her assets.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul. That is how it relates.
How so? That's neither an OT commandment nor a parable Jesus taught. Jesus didn't say that (obviously, since Paul wasn't around yet).
AFAIK, Jesus never said the government shouldn't take from one place to pay toward another. He said, give over your tax money...period. And just don't think about it any more. Think more about what you're giving to God, which almost certainly isn't money.
So I agree with that part too. I'll bet if it weren't for modern religion, I'd be a Christian!
You eat what he told us to eat from the Bible and you live a very long time. and won't need some voodoo clown standing over you with sharp instruments claiming to 'fix you'
- see Aaron, Moses, etc... etc..
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Frankly I feel Jesus, if he existed, or at least how he was portrayed in the NT, was an absolutely flaming liberal who wandered around barefoot, consorted with hookers and deadbeats, had no job and told people to give what they had away. But this is a question that's been batted back and forth quite a bit here on CD. If you do a search you'll find quite a few threads on it. 
