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Old 06-22-2009, 06:48 AM
 
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Given its source, a publication of Claremont McKenna College, not exactly a hotbed of radicalism, this article urging health care cost containment as a reason to legalize euthanasia captures a justification for assisted suicide that is ever lurking in the background of the debate. From “The Economic Argument for Euthanasia,” by Charlie Sprague:
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America has serious health care problems, and as Paul Krugman makes clear in a recent column, serious cost control in the health care industry needs to be a top priority in reform. President Obama and Congressional Democrats seem poised to push for major health care reform in the upcoming months. One idea that politicians on neither the left nor the right will touch due to political sensibilities, however, could be the easiest way to save billions of dollars without affecting health care quality at all: legalizing euthanasia.

Probably a good idea...unless it's your family member then you might have a different viewpoint.

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(http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/secondhandsmoke/2009/06/20/save-money-by-killing-the-sick-euthanasia-as-health-care-cost-containment-not-such-a-parody-as-the-author-may-think/ - broken link)
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This outcome is perfectly rational for a resource that is limited against unlimited demand.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:02 AM
 
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Probably a good idea...unless it's your family member then you might have a different viewpoint.

Secondhand Smoke
(http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/secondhandsmoke/2009/06/20/save-money-by-killing-the-sick-euthanasia-as-health-care-cost-containment-not-such-a-parody-as-the-author-may-think/ - broken link)
Is your point that euthanasia as a means to save money = bad idea?
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:25 AM
 
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Is your point that euthanasia as a means to save money = bad idea?

I think that's too broad a question and truthfully, I can't begin to have a definitive answer to it. I can see where there may be times when euthanasia might be the logical choice. However, there are emotional, religious and economic variables that always seem to muddy the waters. Mostly, who is to make these decisions, under what criteria are they being made and how will our limited resources be allocated? Should we euthanize a 68 year old cancer patient with 2 years to live or a 45 year old convict serving a life sentence in need of a liver transplant?

There are just too many variables that I believe can not be answered and I don't think leaving it up to politicians is in our best interests.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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Yow, it's a terrible idea!

edit. This is talking about federalizing the option in Oregon's D with D Act (or a similar option). That's suicide, not euthanasia.

I think that's a good idea, but euthanasia is just sci-fi, plus there would be so few people opting for it it wouldnt save any money anyway.

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Old 06-22-2009, 07:36 AM
 
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When politicians take over our health care system, all decisions will be made with votes in mind. Those people who probably wouldn't be around to vote in the next election will most likely be put out of their misery. Once the politicians take it over, our health care will be nothing but pork programs they way they always do things and consider how many votes and corporation kickbacks they'll get out of it.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I can't even believe people would debate it but I suppose in a society that thinks it's a woman's right to choose murder when a baby is almost full term, I shouldn't be surprised.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Soylent Green is people!!!!arrrrgh!!!

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Old 06-22-2009, 07:53 AM
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In a society that has increasingly come to view a person's only value by their bank balance this is the inevitable end. One would think that "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" had been changed to add "as long as you are rich."
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: 95468
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I can't even believe people would debate it but I suppose in a society that thinks it's a woman's right to choose murder when a baby is almost full term, I shouldn't be surprised.
In case you haven't noticed post-natal 'abortion' is now
considered to be just another 'choice' by many on the left.

If you google 'action T4' you can see where this cost savings plan has been done before.
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