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View Poll Results: Read below question:
Yes, I would care for someone elses mistake 8 15.09%
no, its not my responsibility...but still vote against abortion 9 16.98%
no, Leave the laws as they are 36 67.92%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-22-2009, 11:44 PM
 
Location: NC
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Could always go with the trade in policy. Those seeking an abortion have their baby and we then exterminate them. No population increase, problem solved.
I do not know if you realize this, but roughly from the age of 0 to somewhere between 16-22 children are dependents. They are a burden on society and consume a great deal of resources without contributing much and are generally considered an asset to society in general more or less because they will eventually grow up, contribute and be an asset to society. That is why countries with large % of people under the age of 15 are generally pretty crappy.

When you execute a person seeking an abortion, but have the child that takes out of the labor pool a productive individual and introduces a dependent without a care giver. Do this often enough and eventually their will be a disproportionate amount of orphans who are wards of the state and a lower amount of productive individuals who have the education and skills and contribute to society immediately.

I hope you can see the problem in this approach.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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I as well would love to one day adopt a child when I am married again and can afford it. I find it funny that people who want to adopt complain that their is a waiting list over a mile long...yeah, if you want a newborn or an infant...but no one wants a child that is over the age of 8...if people weren't so picky they would have a child. There are kids out in the system that are passed over who are just as deserving as any child...making abortion illegal would only add to this.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:51 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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So you would gladly adopt, or gladly directly pay for, your assigned child?
Are you saying that those who are against murder (which is what abortion really amounts to) are somehow responsible for the upbringing of the unwanted children? What about the mother and father? Are they somehow relieved of their responsibility just because they don't want the children?
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Although I would like to adopt a child one day, I am currently not in any position where I can raise a child. I still believe that abortion is murder and would vote to make it illegal except in extreme cases: to save the mother's life and in rape cases.
I am not in the position where I can raise a child. Nor am I in the position to afford pre-natal vitamins, proper nutrition, and medical costs of pregnancy and delivery. Yet you would still deny me the ability to abort if both the pill and condom failed (doesn't happen often, but it does happen)?
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:57 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I am not in the position where I can raise a child. Nor am I in the position to afford pre-natal vitamins, proper nutrition, and medical costs of pregnancy and delivery. Yet you would still deny me the ability to abort if both the pill and condom failed (doesn't happen often, but it does happen)?
Since you cannot afford the medical costs associated with pregnancy and delivery, an innocent baby's life gets snuffed out? There are resources that can assist you with those costs so abortion isn't the answer.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:58 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I am not in the position where I can raise a child. Nor am I in the position to afford pre-natal vitamins, proper nutrition, and medical costs of pregnancy and delivery. Yet you would still deny me the ability to abort if both the pill and condom failed (doesn't happen often, but it does happen)?
By the way, if you are not ready to deal with a potential pregnancy, then you probably should think twice about having sex to begin with. As you had mentioned, birth control can fail.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:29 AM
 
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Since you cannot afford the medical costs associated with pregnancy and delivery, an innocent baby's life gets snuffed out? There are resources that can assist you with those costs so abortion isn't the answer.
So heavier taxation and making me and other pay to support that child and its parent(s) is the answer?

And yes, you can say that I am more concerned with my money than a fetus...cause yes...its a fetus...depending on the stage of that fetus it is not a human in my opinion and the majority of the people.

I think that people should practice safe sex, however, we all know that this will not happen...people are careless with their actions and words.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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By the way, if you are not ready to deal with a potential pregnancy, then you probably should think twice about having sex to begin with. As you had mentioned, birth control can fail.
My parents were not in a financial position to have children for the first 6 years of their marriage. Furthermore, my mother was in a career where she could not be pregnant (teacher at a school for children with behavioral issues- she was regularly attacked) so adoption wouldn't have been an option. I guess that they should just have remained abstinent, right?
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:42 AM
 
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Are you saying that those who are against murder (which is what abortion really amounts to) are somehow responsible for the upbringing of the unwanted children? What about the mother and father? Are they somehow relieved of their responsibility just because they don't want the children?
see the OP.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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If you cant answer the OP's question just say so, dont be coy.
There's nothing to answer. It's a stupid liberal question meant to appease people like you.

Why do YOU think that those that got themselves in the position SHOULDN'T be responsible?

Why should it fall on the shoulders of those of us that make good decisions? Why can't people be responsible for themselves?

Cmon, don't be coy, answer the question.

And then get a life.
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