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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the Supreme Court's ruling?
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Court says public must pay for private special ed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_go_su_co/us_supreme_court_special_education - broken link)


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The Supreme Court on Monday shifted the landscape for students with learning disabilities, saying parents can in many instances bypass public school special education programs and be reimbursed for private school tuition instead. The court ruled 6-3 in favor of a teenage boy from Oregon whose parents sought to force their local public school district to pay the $5,200 a month it cost to send their son to a private school.
I personally fear such a ruling will result in a spike of parents of special needs children claiming their children need a private education.


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Old 06-22-2009, 05:26 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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It's been required for nearly twenty years.

IDEA (The Individual with Disabilities Education Act)


If the local school cannot provide appropriate services a private placement is required at the school system's cost. If they refuse the parents can and do sue. And win. The Supreme Court just settled it.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's been required for nearly twenty years.
IDEA (The Individual with Disabilities Education Act)


If the local school cannot provide appropriate services a private placement is required at the school system's cost. If they refuse the parents can and do sue. And win. The Supreme Court just settled it.
That's just what I was thinking. Thanks for posting that.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Court says public must pay for private special ed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_go_su_co/us_supreme_court_special_education - broken link)



I personally fear such a ruling will result in a spike of parents of special needs children claiming their children need a private education.


Do you agree with the Supreme Court's ruling?
Not sure what you find objectionable here. The ruling simply means that parents have the option of trying private schools without first trying public education, and request reimbursement. It doesn't mean that the reimbursement is guaranteed, just that they aren't barred from requesting the cost reimbursement.


In its appeal, the Forest Grove School District said students should be forced to at least give public special education programs a try before seeking reimbursement for private tuition. If not, parents would bypass public schools and go directly to private school — and then ask for reimbursement from school systems already burdened by ever-increasing costs.

The court's decision does not require reimbursement, but Stevens said school officials "must consider all relevant factors, including the notice provided by parents and the school district's opportunities for evaluating the child, in determining whether reimbursement for some or all of the cost of the child's private school education is warranted."
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:32 PM
 
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Not sure what you find objectionable here. The ruling simply means that parents have the option of trying private schools without first trying public education, and request reimbursement. It doesn't mean that the reimbursement is guaranteed, just that they aren't barred from requesting the cost reimbursement.


In its appeal, the Forest Grove School District said students should be forced to at least give public special education programs a try before seeking reimbursement for private tuition. If not, parents would bypass public schools and go directly to private school — and then ask for reimbursement from school systems already burdened by ever-increasing costs.

The court's decision does not require reimbursement, but Stevens said school officials "must consider all relevant factors, including the notice provided by parents and the school district's opportunities for evaluating the child, in determining whether reimbursement for some or all of the cost of the child's private school education is warranted."
$$$$ down the drain in the spirit of fairness.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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$$$$ down the drain in the spirit of fairness.
How so?
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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Court says public must pay for private special ed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_go_su_co/us_supreme_court_special_education - broken link)

I personally fear such a ruling will result in a spike of parents of special needs children claiming their children need a private education.

Do you agree with the Supreme Court's ruling?
Just wait till national healthcare just moving and these with "special needs" need special hospitals, with special housing, with special nurses, and special cars, with special cooks with special meals.. Yeah, you get the picture..

That being said, I have a special needs child, who can function normally with the right medication, and yes, he receives special education but he does go to a public school. The only workable alternative, military school..
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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$$$$ down the drain in the spirit of fairness.
Maybe not fairness, exactly. Public schools in general are, or can be, equipped to provide services for many if not most disabilities. And don't kid yourself that can be horrendously expensive but private placement can go to upwards of $500K/year for a boarding situation. Where public schools have an issue is not so much with developmentally disabled but emotionally disabled (ED) where the kid has little or no anger management or self-control skills, coupled many times with an asocial/amoral personality. Those kids play hell in a public school setting and need intensive monitoring and behavior management. And before someone says "all he needs is a swift kick in the ass", well ok, but for most of them that's been tried and hasn't worked yet. I had a couple mainstreamed anger management kids this year who would get so frustrated they'd start to cry and hit themselves. One girl even went off on a supervisor from the Board who I was having a spirited discussion with. She thought she was defending me from an unfair situation.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Not sure what you find objectionable here. The ruling simply means that parents have the option of trying private schools without first trying public education, and request reimbursement. It doesn't mean that the reimbursement is guaranteed, just that they aren't barred from requesting the cost reimbursement.


In its appeal, the Forest Grove School District said students should be forced to at least give public special education programs a try before seeking reimbursement for private tuition. If not, parents would bypass public schools and go directly to private school — and then ask for reimbursement from school systems already burdened by ever-increasing costs.

The court's decision does not require reimbursement, but Stevens said school officials "must consider all relevant factors, including the notice provided by parents and the school district's opportunities for evaluating the child, in determining whether reimbursement for some or all of the cost of the child's private school education is warranted."
I have a problem with parents being able to bypass the public schools and saying, "Pay for my child's special education" without even first trying the public school out. If they want their child to have a private education, they need to foot the bill, not taxpayers.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I have a problem with parents being able to bypass the public schools and saying, "Pay for my child's special education" without even first trying the public school out. If they want their child to have a private education, they need to foot the bill, not taxpayers.
This was not your "normal" child. This is a special needs child. And frankly, many, if not most, of our public schools are incapable of providing quality education for many of these children. And those that try to, do so at the expense of the "normal" kids.

Yet here we have a school that was SET UP from the get go, to deal with, and educate, special needs kids.

This was, IMO, a GREAT decision on the part of the court.
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