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Old 06-23-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Couldn't this be the biggest hindrance to their reform?


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President Obama summoned Senate Democrats in charge of writing healthcare legislation to the White House yesterday, urging them to find common ground on his top domestic priority even as long-simmering disagreements broke out between factions of the party over what it should contain...

Obama urges Senate Democrats to settle healthcare issues - The Boston Globe

White House Responds to Feinstein Concerns About Medicaid Cuts - California Healthline



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Old 06-23-2009, 11:16 AM
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Democrats have intra-party disagreements on just about every issue. They are not in lock step like some other political parties.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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Couldn't this be the biggest hindrance to their reform?
So, am I to understand the the democratic party is it's own worst enemy?

It would just stand to reason I guess, what with the Republicans throwing the monkey wrench Palin into the works and the U.S. government attempting to fix things that either aren't broke or altogether unfixable ..

Seems we are all our own worst enemies these days.

Oh the Irony ...
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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Here's something I heard a journalist point out about U.S healthcare reforms. The problem is that we do have 45 million not insured but there is not a big push coming from those 45 million to change healthcare. Where's the organization with this 45 million to change healthcare? Doesn't this lack of a push from this uninsured group affect this issue?
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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Couldn't this be the biggest hindrance to their reform?
good...thats how problems get solved...get the best from everyone...if Bush and Republicans did that maybe close to 5000 of our military wouldn't have died in Iraq
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:12 PM
 
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good...thats how problems get solved...get the best from everyone...if Bush and Republicans did that maybe close to 5000 of our military wouldn't have died in Iraq
But can't this disagreement go either way? Yes the debate could cause them to work something out among themselves but at the sametime there's a potential that intra-party bickering can just hold things up.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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But can't this disagreement go either way? Yes the debate could cause them to work something out among themselves but at the sametime there's a potential that intra-party bickering can just hold things up.
I rather have the thing held up until they get the best plan out instead of rushing something..like bush did with the Iraq war.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Here's something I heard a journalist point out about U.S healthcare reforms. The problem is that we do have 45 million not insured but there is not a big push coming from those 45 million to change healthcare. Where's the organization with this 45 million to change healthcare? Doesn't this lack of a push from this uninsured group affect this issue?
Have you seen how many of that group would be covered with any of the plans so far suggested? Not very many, but lots of money would be spent and a high number of those with insurance now would lose it unless they could pay for something new.

The "funniest" thing about all this is that I haven't yet found out where the money for any of these plans comes from. Oh well, the Dems have that big money tree on the National Square that they can always pick some more if they need it.
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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The "funniest" thing about all this is that I haven't yet found out where the money for any of these plans comes from. Oh well, the Dems have that big money tree on the National Square that they can always pick some more if they need it.
Raising taxes...85% of Americans wouldn't mind having their taxes raised if we can achieve UHC
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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Here's something I heard a journalist point out about U.S healthcare reforms. The problem is that we do have 45 million not insured but there is not a big push coming from those 45 million to change healthcare. Where's the organization with this 45 million to change healthcare? Doesn't this lack of a push from this uninsured group affect this issue?
You're right.

Chances are that it's only a very small portion of the American public that wants this. You know ... the ones that will stand to benefit in a monitary way.

We already know that the Fed doesn't exactly have the midas touch in cases such as these, and since we only hear from the fringes (extreme right/left) in this country, I'm willing to bet that it's only a mere 8% to 10% of the polpulous that wants this.

80% of the rest of the country could most likely care less about this sort of nonsense, and figure that this is only just the latest in the government effort to money grab from the American people through taxes.

We all know how much of a ruse Social Security and Medicare have become ... this business of *Healthcare is just another one of those broken down and worthless entitlement programs that will be misused and abused.
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