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Old 06-23-2009, 07:06 PM
 
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the teacher's unions work. the teachers, um, they don't work as much.

700 NYC teachers are paid to do nothing - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms - broken link)
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Without comment on the charges that is SOP with most contracts, comes under "due process". Where the problem comes in is when the system investigation drags on and on and on, in some instances for years. We had the same thing thirty years ago when I worked in industry. Another problem is when the school system is so invested in finding wrongdoing they won't clear the person. There was a thread about the 40 y/o marrying the 16 y/o a couple days ago and I referenced Anne Arundel County, MD. During the fallout from the case I mentioned they had another teacher (among several) accused by a student of sexual improprieties. When the system found the charges to be baseless the investigators turned it over to the State's Attorney who was shooting for higher office. During the subsequent trial the student admitted falsifying her complaint because she was mad at the instructor about a grade. What raised everybody's eyebrows was the student's original assertion that the encounter had occurred on the 3rd floor of the school-which only had 2 stories. Even after the teacher's acquittal the system refused to reinstate him. Took another lawsuit for that to happen. Total time out of the classroom: 3+ years, the entire time the teacher was working at Board HQ.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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the teacher's unions work. the teachers, um, they don't work as much.

700 NYC teachers are paid to do nothing - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms - broken link)
Funny.

The dumbest people I know "teach" in public schools
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:47 PM
 
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this is pathetic. these teachers should be thrown out on the street and stripped of their retirement funds.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:03 PM
 
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the teacher's unions work. the teachers, um, they don't work as much.

700 NYC teachers are paid to do nothing - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms - broken link)
It's time to give public schools some private enterprise competition. If the public schools system condones this waste of time and money, public funds for private education needs to be introduced, and QUICK.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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It's time to give public schools some private enterprise competition. If the public schools system condones this waste of time and money, public funds for private education needs to be introduced, and QUICK.
care to elaborate?
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:13 PM
 
Location: southern california
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dont go after the watch dog go after the monster he is guarding.
public school the monster
voucher sooner the better.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:13 PM
 
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care to elaborate?
teacher's unions are probably the biggest threat to this country. they have the ability to destroy a generation with their poor teachers.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:19 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Want to see why teacher's unions became necessary?

RULES FOR [FEMALE] TEACHERS 1915:

RULES FOR [FEMALE] TEACHERS 1915

1. You will NOT marry during the term of your contract.

2. You are NOT to keep company with men.

3. You MUST be home between the hours of 8pm and 6am
unless attending a school function.

4. You MAY NOT loiter downtown in icecream stores.

5. You MAY NOT travel beyond the city limits
without the permission of the chairman of the board.

6. You MAY NOT ride in a carriage or automobile with any man
unless he is your father or your brother.

7. You MAY NOT smoke cigarettes.

8. You MAY NOT dress in bright colours.

9. You may UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES dye your hair.

10. You must wear AT LEAST two petticoats.

11. Your dresses must NOT be any shorter
than two inches above the ankle.

12. To keep the school room clean you must:
- sweep the floor at least once a day
- scrub the floor with hot soapy water at least once a week
- clean the blackboard at least once a day
- start the fire at 7am so that the room will be warm by 8am.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Want to see why teacher's unions became necessary?

RULES FOR [FEMALE] TEACHERS 1915:

RULES FOR [FEMALE] TEACHERS 1915

1. You will NOT marry during the term of your contract.

2. You are NOT to keep company with men.

3. You MUST be home between the hours of 8pm and 6am
unless attending a school function.

4. You MAY NOT loiter downtown in icecream stores.

5. You MAY NOT travel beyond the city limits
without the permission of the chairman of the board.

6. You MAY NOT ride in a carriage or automobile with any man
unless he is your father or your brother.

7. You MAY NOT smoke cigarettes.

8. You MAY NOT dress in bright colours.

9. You may UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES dye your hair.

10. You must wear AT LEAST two petticoats.

11. Your dresses must NOT be any shorter
than two inches above the ankle.

12. To keep the school room clean you must:
- sweep the floor at least once a day
- scrub the floor with hot soapy water at least once a week
- clean the blackboard at least once a day
- start the fire at 7am so that the room will be warm by 8am.
so rules from 100 years ago are an argument for teachers unions? I am pretty sure most of those rules have been changed. now the unions do nothing but harm.
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