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Get over what? Worshiping a man with greatness is wrong?
Maybe the village iditiot Obama needs to go back and read up on Reagan so he will have a clue on how to become a great President.
Ronald Reagan, one of the best Presidents in American history if not the best!
Worship- We need to worship those in our history who were great and he was one of those great people in our history.
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If you are a Christian, then yes it is indeed wrong to worship anybody or anything other the God. I don't think these commandments apply to the radical right wing 'christians' who have hijacked the GOP though.
Exodus 20:2-5
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
3 Do not have any other gods before me.
4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
Reagan quotes that are applicable in the Iranian crisis:
Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty.
Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.
I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph. And there's purpose and worth to each and every life.
Peace is not absence of conflict, it is the ability to handle conflict by peaceful means.
To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.
Reagan believed in people above government, because of that often those who see America has a free nation and place of dreams they hold Reagan as a light that often reminded all of us just what America was. Reagan while not perfect in his terms did his part in bringing together the republican party and also a nation. Reagan handled the media of which was important in the days where democrats and liberals looked to push an agenda of government socialism. Just as they do today. Reagan on his final address the nation said it best on what he did regret the most which was the national debt. Even before he was president on speaking for barry goldwater in 1968 he often new the dangers in the debt and the issues with socialism. Please review "a time for chosing" on you tube. Government is not the solution was the message Reagan brought to the whitehouse and tired his best to work with a democratic congress and to protect a nation in a cold war.
Reagan believed in people above government, because of that often those who see America has a free nation and place of dreams they hold Reagan as a light that often reminded all of us just what America was. Reagan while not perfect in his terms did his part in bringing together the republican party and also a nation. Reagan handled the media of which was important in the days where democrats and liberals looked to push an agenda of government socialism. Just as they do today. Reagan on his final address the nation said it best on what he did regret the most which was the national debt. Even before he was president on speaking for barry goldwater in 1968 he often new the dangers in the debt and the issues with socialism. Please review "a time for chosing" on you tube. Government is not the solution was the message Reagan brought to the whitehouse and tired his best to work with a democratic congress and to protect a nation in a cold war.
Reagan believed in people above government, because of that often those who see America has a free nation and place of dreams they hold Reagan as a light that often reminded all of us just what America was. Reagan while not perfect in his terms did his part in bringing together the republican party and also a nation. Reagan handled the media of which was important in the days where democrats and liberals looked to push an agenda of government socialism. Just as they do today. Reagan on his final address the nation said it best on what he did regret the most which was the national debt. Even before he was president on speaking for barry goldwater in 1968 he often new the dangers in the debt and the issues with socialism. Please review "a time for chosing" on you tube. Government is not the solution was the message Reagan brought to the whitehouse and tired his best to work with a democratic congress and to protect a nation in a cold war.
Yet he did nothing and was silent in the face of the rapidly emerging global HIV/AIDS epidemic while tens of thousands of Americans were sick and dying:
"If only Ronald Reagan had been willing or able to summon up similar passion and bluntness during the early days of AIDS. First reported in the medical and mainstream press in 1981, it was not until October 1987 that Reagan publicly spoke about the AIDS epidemic in a major policy address. By the end of that year, 59,572 AIDS cases had been reported and 27,909 of those women and men had died. He and his administration did almost nothing during the first seven years of the epidemic. AIDS research was chronically underfunded. Community education and prevention programs were routinely denied federal funding. "
Wow, what a great discussion So much to respond to:
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Originally posted by SGrey
I'm not a liberal, as most know, and I loved Reagan something fierce for a variety of reasons. That said, the older I get, the closer I look at his policies, what he did and the long term ramifications of that, the less I think of the job he did as president. I still love the man but time and distance have prevented the Reagan legacy from standing up as well as I once thought it would.
I'm exactly the same way. I was born in 1981 into a Republican, Reagan loving household, grew up on Rush Limbaugh and learned that Reagan was one of the best presidents ever. And while I still like the man, I've seriously questioned his choices--especially since the downturn. Basically, he was a fundamentally decent man who had great intentions, but didn't understand the consequences of some of his actions.
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Originally posted by golfgod
1. "He brought down the Berlin wall." In fact his "Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall" speech was not directed at the Kremlin, but at his right wing attackers (particularly Newt Gingrich) at home....
About # 1: If Reagan was a factor, then it was small. The USSR was imploding anyway. But the things he said (like the Berlin speech) were great. I like a lot of his speeches and quotes.
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5. "He was tough with our enemies." Actually he was more than willing to talk to our enemies. Go check the record, he was often in trouble with the right wing at home because of this. See #1 above.
So right on. He talked with the "evil empire" Hell, he even went over there! Hannity would consider him an appeaser.
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I think he was a good President, not great, not bad. I don't think he was "an amiable dunce" as many think. He was smart enough, and a good enough actor to appeal to stupid as well as smart people. His idea of totally deregulating everything was an unmitigated disaster. His banking dereg led right to the S&L mess, the cure of which led to where we've gotten now. The regulations put in during the '30s led to a long period of sustained growth. Since the deregulation bug bit we've lurched from housing crisis to tech boom to banking and insurance crisis.
That's about how I feel. I think he did some good and some bad. But he was fundamentally a decent, well intentioned person, even if I don't put him in the "Top 10 best presidents" category.
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I thought Reagan was a nice guy, but I have been very puzzled about the hero worship that has surfaced in the last 10 or so years.
Yes, it is weird. When people talk about Reagan the way my pastor talks about Jesus, it's weird. He was human. He made mistakes. What's ironic is that he really believed that the greatness of America lied in it's people. Yet his strongest heroes are frantically searching for a second Reagan to ride in on his white horse and save the country. I have a feeling Reagan would be appalled at the hero worship. But that's just me.
I really think reagan can be judged by the resulkt when he was presdient. The worshipo comes with Obama who has done nothig yet and still gets worship by teh old dreamers based on goals .It wil take decades before we judge Obam and it can be just hope it doesn't turn out likre the woirship of JFK verus the reality.
Yet he did nothing and was silent in the face of the rapidly emerging global HIV/AIDS epidemic while tens of thousands of Americans were sick and dying:
"If only Ronald Reagan had been willing or able to summon up similar passion and bluntness during the early days of AIDS. First reported in the medical and mainstream press in 1981, it was not until October 1987 that Reagan publicly spoke about the AIDS epidemic in a major policy address. By the end of that year, 59,572 AIDS cases had been reported and 27,909 of those women and men had died. He and his administration did almost nothing during the first seven years of the epidemic. AIDS research was chronically underfunded. Community education and prevention programs were routinely denied federal funding. "
Wrong. Reagan mentioned AIDS in a 1986 State of the Union speech.
According to the Congressional Research Service, federal spending on HIV/AIDS began at $8 million in fiscal year 1982. By the time Reagan left office, the fiscal 1989 budget contained $2.322 billion for HIV/AIDS. Overall, between fiscal years 1982 and 1989, the Reagan Administration spent $5.727 billion on HIV/AIDS.
The average annual increase in HIV/AIDS funding over this period was 128.92%.
Also, in case anyone considered Reagan to be a homophobic bigot, here is a quote from Robert G. Kaiser's report in the March 18, 1984 Washington Post:
"The Reagans are also tolerant about homosexual men. Their interior decorator, Ted Graber, who oversaw the redecoration of the White House, spend a night in the Reagan's private White House quarters with his male lover, Archie Case, when they came to Washington for Nancy Reagan's 60th birthday party- a fact confirmed for the press by Mrs. Reagan's press secertary."
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If you are a Christian, then yes it is indeed wrong to worship anybody or anything other the God. I don't think these commandments apply to the radical right wing 'christians' who have hijacked the GOP though.
