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Let's be clear - - -
Climate changes.
But do the current climate changes represent a reaction to human sources?
Remember, the #1 greenhouse gas is WATER VAPOR (approx. 1% of the atmosphere) as contrasted with CO2 which is around 0.003% - 300 ppm - of the atmosphere... 100 to 150ppm considered to be the minimum to sustain life.
Panicked over CO2? - don't be.
There is NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for the projections.
No scientific basis? Really? Perhaps you can dash off an updated set of scientific facts to these folks:
A yr ago I saw a few scientist on tv who lost their job because hey opened their mouth and had proof against Global Warming but Al Gore and others are making a busiess of Global Warming and bringing in tons of money for themself...kind of similar to OPEC being a scam....the public is told a different story so a few people can make more money on a hoax!
Similarly, Mr. Obama claimed that "the days of science taking a back seat to ideology are over... To undermine scientific integrity is to undermine our democracy. It is contrary to our way of life."
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"To undermine scientific integrity is to undermine our democracy" - now that is truly hysterical considering that Obama & Friends are ignoring all the evidence which refutes man-made global warming.
The whole thing has NOTHING to do with the climate - it is all about the money and taxes.
Perhaps, and it is a BIG perhaps, if the Feds were honest with us we MAY be more receptive to regulation, etc. Instead, we simply feel the Feds are trying, once again, to bamboozle us.
In the link you provided, it gives a list of organizations that accept man-made global warming as real and scientifically well-supported.
Take a closer look at them.
No bias or connection to the Fed's agenda here
For example:
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - They are the ones who created the model and report upon which are policies (esp Cap & Trade) are being based. If you read Inhofe's report (and other net research) you will see that even experts who worked on the report refute it's findings.
Many say the model is flawed, the final report ignored aspects of the research,e tc.
Environmental Protection Agency - Look through their website. Their finding rely heavily on the IPCC report.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - In the article's link to their website, it states:
Quote:
Listed below are a number of questions commonly addressed to climate scientists, and brief replies (based on IPCC reports and other research) Global Warming Frequently Asked Questions
National Academy of Sciences -
Quote:
The Department of Commerce Appropriations Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-161) calls for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to execute an agreement with the National Academy of Sciences to establish a committee that will "investigate and study the serious and sweeping issues relating to global climate change and make recommendations regarding what steps must be taken and what strategies must be adopted in response to global climate change, including the science and technology challenges thereof." .......America's Climate Choices: Background (http://www.americasclimatechoices.org/background.shtml - broken link)
In the link you provided, it gives a list of organizations that accept man-made global warming as real and scientifically well-supported.
Take a closer look at them.
No bias or connection to the Fed's agenda here
For example:
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - They are the ones who created the model and report upon which are policies (esp Cap & Trade) are being based. If you read Inhofe's report (and other net research) you will see that even experts who worked on the report refute it's findings.
Many say the model is flawed, the final report ignored aspects of the research,e tc.
Environmental Protection Agency - Look through their website. Their finding rely heavily on the IPCC report.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - In the article's link to their website, it states:
National Academy of Sciences -
And all of the organizations from other countries have a "bias" or "connection" to "the Fed's agenda" (assuming there is some nefarious "agenda") how?
No matter the conclusions of all these learned reports and studies, there is no way I am ever going to buy any property on tidewater or within the 1,000 year flood stage of any lake, pond or river.
I guess my question to climate change alarmists is: why do you fear a full airing and debate of the science? Why is it that when anyone questions your assumptions the pat answer is that it is a settled matter? If the science is irrefutable, as you imply, why are you afraid of anyone challenging it?
But you are an Algore believer as can be seen by the sources you hand out. I am one of those skeptics so naturally you need to convince me. You put out the way to talk to me, so surely you can do it.
I guess my question to climate change alarmists is: why do you fear a full airing and debate of the science? Why is it that when anyone questions your assumptions the pat answer is that it is a settled matter? If the science is irrefutable, as you imply, why are you afraid of anyone challenging it?
I am not allowed to give you props yet, but will tell you that this may well be the most sensible post of the day.
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