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Old 07-01-2009, 05:05 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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RJ Reynolds Tobacco Company.

Who'd a thought that an "institute" that denies the link between cancer and smoking, AND the health risks of second-hand smoke, would get money from a mega-cigarette maker.

Coinkydink, I'm sure.
Coinkydink.
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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Real facts? You gotta be kidding me, some Americans are so bombarded with propaganda from the right spin on the news they wouldn't believe the truth if it hit them in the face....
Both parties dish out the propoganda.
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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I found this rather interesting....

Breitbart.tv
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:06 PM
 
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I found this rather interesting....

Breitbart.tv

Of course they (Obama's people) engage in it also.

It's a function of just how immense the change US politics has undergone since the mid-60's, and esp. since the post-Watergate reforms, which were designed (on the surface) to limit the influence of $ in our system, but instead were corrupted to allow the system to be bought just like so much fish.

Remember the term "PAC"? (Political Action Committee).

Those are a direct result of these "reforms", as was the departure of the non-partisan League Of Women Voters from the presidential debates in 1988.
The reason for their withdrawing as sponsors is also "bipartisan" (from a party standpoint) and related to the ubiquitious influence of these corporate funds:

No longer did either party desire true political debates at the "debates". Both wanted precisely what the debates have devolved into since then:

Infomercials controlled by corporate sponsors (the media) who also are given the task of keeping anyone ( a Nader, a Kucinich, or even a Ron Paul) who they don't own out of the spotlight, or at least minimizing their time/credibility in same.

Which brings us back to the truth, and where it resides:

And that's against the power of the day- be it either a corporate Democrat or a Republican.

Why is this?

Well, simply put because this is supposed to be a democracy (yeah, scatterbrains will say "It's a Republic!", as if there is some big difference, although the guy who largely created the framework under which our system operates, James Madison of Virginia, said the terms were interchangeable) and therefore looking out for ther interests of all, or at least, most.
And surely NOT a plutocracy, which unfortunately it is.

For in a plutocracy, only those with real wealth count. And by the objective measures of today, that equates to only about 15-20% of us, surely NOT a majority.

Which is why the corporations have to invent bogus "think tanks" like Cato to confuse, to hold off change- anything which threatens the finances of their benefactors.

Which is why today, as has been so widely noted, "Truth has a liberal bias."

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