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See how well the rural folks hold up when their farm subsidies dry up, their electric grids, telephones and internet are taken off line because it is not cost effective, and their roads are not maintained for the same reason. It is simply a fact that rural folks need government far more then urban folks because where as the aforementioned services are profitable to provide in cities they are not profitable to provide in many rural areas without gov't support.
As a southerner who has studied history, I will tell you that the rural South was on par with a third world country prior to the New Deal and benefited greatly from the government investement FDR put into building decent school buildings and electric-ing up the the rural south with the TVA.
I love how threads like this bring the staunch liberals out of the woodwork. I think the majority of libertarians (that I know at least) don't care about political parties and rather vote/act based on what they believe to be best. Unfortunately that cannot be said about the majority of conservatives/liberals...
I think we can all learn that placing a party label on your chest is a very narrow-minded and un-intellectual thing to do. Independant thought is not valued in either the democratic or republican parties anymore.
See how well the rural folks hold up when their farm subsidies dry up, their electric grids, telephones and internet are taken off line because it is not cost effective, and their roads are not maintained for the same reason. It is simply a fact that rural folks need government far more then urban folks because where as the aforementioned services are profitable to provide in cities they are not profitable to provide in many rural areas without gov't support.
As a southerner who has studied history, I will tell you that the rural South was on par with a third world country prior to the New Deal and benefited greatly from the government investement FDR put into building decent school buildings and electric-ing up the the rural south with the TVA.
I've always had a problem with wealthy farmers and agribusiness being paid for such things as NOT growing food.
I've always had a problem with wealthy farmers and agribusiness being paid for such things as NOT growing food.
The Fed is a scam in all things it touches.
I agree farm subsidies need to be scaled back, however rural areas will soon find themselves living a 19th century existence without federal assistance when it comes to food prices, electricity and infrustructure construction. If they want to go back to no electricity, no indoor plumbing, wild agracultural price variances, limited road access and poor schools that is fine by me, but I think most of them would not like it. Most rural folks I have met are far more populist then libertarian.
I'm glad someone started this thread. Having been a conservative, I've been thinking about Libertarianism for awhile now.
In a nut shell, I think like this- I am pro constitution but believe in very limited government. I don't think its the governments job to be involved in every aspect of my life nor is it the governments job to subsidize each and every problem in my life with a new program that is going to FIX it for me.
I believe when the framers wrote the constitution they had limited federal government in mind. I believe what ever powers were not specifically designated to the feds was left up to the people and the states. I believe that the federal government should defend our soil and our liberties, and not much else beyond that.
Socially speaking- I have no opinion one way or another on many issues. Gay Marriage- idfc what you do in or out of your bedroom and its not my business anyway, just as its not your business what i do in mine.
Abortion- while i personally dont agree with abortion, i dont think the governement has the right to tell anyone what to do with their bodies. I am prochoice for that reason. As far as late term abortion goes, i think its a slippery slope. at what point do we consider something to be cruel? i detest the idea of late term abortion but again, i think its a slippery slope.
Religiously- I am a Christian but I feel like politics and religion should never be mixed regardless of what the beliefs are. The framers were clear in their ideals in the constitution.
economically- i believe much of what the libertarians believe and am mostly in line with them.
pot- personally i dont care for pot but i also see no problem with legalizing it. I think more people are capable of functioning and contributing to society while smoking pot then drinking. and i think pot kills far fewer people each year than does alcohol, whether its from DUI or Cirrhosis. I haven't met many violent pot heads and have met plenty of violent drunks.
I agree farm subsidies need to be scaled back, however rural areas will soon find themselves living a 19th century existence without federal assistance when it comes to food prices, electricity and infrustructure construction. If they want to go back to no electricity, no indoor plumbing, wild agracultural price variances, limited road access and poor schools that is fine by me, but I think most of them would not like it. Most rural folks I have met are far more populist then libertarian.
If the Government had been intrusive of farmers to the benefit of farmers and consumers in a way that prohibited anything but organic products for human consumption, it would have been a big plus for supporting Socialism.
But sadly, the Government is run BY Corporations FOR Corporations.
A Corporate Charter don't eat nuthin' but money.
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