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Old 07-01-2009, 11:22 PM
 
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WASHINGTON — Democrats on a key Senate Committee outlined a revised and far less costly
health care plan Wednesday night that includes a government-run insurance option and an
annual fee on employers who do not offer coverage to their workers.

New HELP Bill Covers 97 Percent Of Americans, Costs $600 Billion

Were getting warm...
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Double the cost and halve the coverage. That will be closer to Government number reality. Nothing is being done to reduce costs, stop lawsuit abuse and deregulate the drug cartels. This is a failure like all other centrally planned schemes. How's Medicares future?
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:49 PM
 
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Double the cost and halve the coverage. That will be closer to Government number reality. Nothing is being done to reduce costs, stop lawsuit abuse and deregulate the drug cartels. This is a failure like all other centrally planned schemes. How's Medicares future?
And how much did we spend in Iraq?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:21 AM
 
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Additionally, the revised proposal calls for a $750 annual fee on employers for each full-time worker not offered coverage through their job. The fee would be set at $375 for part-time workers. Companies with fewer than 25 employees would be exempt. The fee was forecast to generate $52 billion over 10 years, money the government would use to help provide subsidies to those who cannot afford insurance.





What will $750 a year fee to businesses that don't offer insurance do to offset the cost of subsidizing those without insurance? Guess the taxpayers will have to make up the difference.

Sweet deal for business. $750 a year fee instead of average of $1,000 per month premium. Gee, do you think businesses will stop offering health insurance now?

All that lobbying from big biz is really starting to pay off now.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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And how much did we spend in Iraq?

You cant even stay in topic for a post your started?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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So why does Obama not care about 9,000,000 americans?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:45 AM
 
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And how much did we spend in Iraq?
We wasted money in Iraq, so we can waste money on healthcare. Nice attitude.

"I lost $5,000 in vegas last weekend, so I should go to atlantic city and blow another 5 grand tomorrow!"

do you see how stupid that logic sounds?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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We wasted money in Iraq, so we can waste money on healthcare. Nice attitude.

"I lost $5,000 in vegas last weekend, so I should go to atlantic city and blow another 5 grand tomorrow!"

do you see how stupid that logic sounds?
I think you forgot who you're talking to.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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We wasted money in Iraq, so we can waste money on healthcare. Nice attitude.

"I lost $5,000 in vegas last weekend, so I should go to atlantic city and blow another 5 grand tomorrow!"

do you see how stupid that logic sounds?

My guess is ...no.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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WASHINGTON — Democrats on a key Senate Committee outlined a revised and far less costly
health care plan Wednesday night that includes a government-run insurance option and an
annual fee on employers who do not offer coverage to their workers.

New HELP Bill Covers 97 Percent Of Americans, Costs $600 Billion

Were getting warm...
Much better than the first attempt. I am glad to see that the CBO number crunchers are able to show that a public option could be less expensive while insuring almost everyone.

I'd like to see some more detail though - who are the 3% who wouldn't be covered?

And why only $750 per employee? That doesn't create any incentive for companies to offer insurance. If anything, it sounds like it would be an incentive to NOT offer it. That's a lot less than companies are paying now.

Anyway, definitely moving in the right direction.
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