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Old 07-05-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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No, it isn't, and if you'd been paying any attention at all, you'd know that. The auto and financial sectors are on federal life support to prevent their failures on the spot -- failures that would have had crushing impacts on an already struggling economy. As they reorganize into entities capable of making a go of it on their own again, they will return to the private sector.

Would you like to point to any provision at all in current drafts of health care legislation that calls for federal bureaucrats to make health care decisions on your behalf? Are you cognizant of the fact that under the current private sector systems, HMO and other bureaucrats are making health care decisions on your behalf by the thousands every day?

Many right-wingers seem to consider all taxes to be examples of "more and excessive". They apparently believe that we should have no government at all, or that we should have one but not be expected to pay for it. Are you one of those?


The people and policies that Limbaugh has supported over the years have already caused massive failure all across America and beyond. He now encourages that the efforts of those trying to repair that damge should fail. Either he does indeed want America to fail, or he has no freaking idea of what failure actually is or means.
It's funny how they avoid replying to your posts unless to say,

".............................................

nuh-uh!"
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The people and policies that Limbaugh has supported over the years have already caused massive failure all across America and beyond. He now encourages that the efforts of those trying to repair that damge should fail. Either he does indeed want America to fail, or he has no freaking idea of what failure actually is or means.
What it means is that Limbaugh would be able to buy the carcass for two cents on the dollar. He knows exactly what he's saying.

Anyone who believes Rush Limbaugh cares about anything but Rush Limbaugh is a damned fool and needs to live in constant fear of being dragged away for burial by a herd of squirrels.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Boise
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An America with it's automotive and financial sectors under control of the federal government and a healthcare system that lets government beaurocrats make any sort of healthcare decisions while foisting more and excessive taxes on the American people would be a failure. And it's right where we are headed.
I don't want to see the government control our automotive and financial's any more than the next guy, but what choice was there? The people formerly in charge of these sectors totally BLEW it. and something had to be done. Government controled businesses may not be all that appealing, but I assure you that private businesses have been proving to be just plain scuzzy. You can't make a business deal without them getting the upperhand at your expense somehow. Our private businesses and systems are essentially legalized scams. In my mind, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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It takes a communist to know a communist...
Thank you! Since it is only you extreme right-wingers making the claim that Obama is a commie, it is you who are the commies. Like you wrote, it takes a communist to know a communist.
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Thank you! Since it is only you extreme right-wingers making the claim that Obama is a commie, it is you who are the commies. Like you wrote, it takes a communist to know a communist.
But does it take a socialist to know a socialist?


You mean..................right wingers are really SOCIALISTS?!
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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If being a patriot means we have to blindly love this country no matter what the authorities decide is best for us, then I'm not a patriot, but if it means that I can love this country and defend its principles against what even the President thinks is best for us, then I am a patriot.
Then we are agreed for this is exactly what I am saying. Policies and politicans come and go, love for the enduring ideal of America is the mark of an American patriot.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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I see where you're coming from, but I can also see people seeing that the country has shifted away dramatically from (some of) its ideals and principles over the past 50 or so years (and closer in other regards). As a note a lot of things are much larger than the country's political structure, so the vote part of your equation is junk in some American's minds.
I think i see where you are going with this. Just for context, I was replying to this post:

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I'm starting to love the US again, didn't feel that way during the last 8 years though...
Which is why I refered to the Presidentail election.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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What it means is that Limbaugh would be able to buy the carcass for two cents on the dollar. He knows exactly what he's saying.

Anyone who believes Rush Limbaugh cares about anything but Rush Limbaugh is a damned fool and needs to live in constant fear of being dragged away for burial by a herd of squirrels.
Is it possible that you got the words from Limbaugh about that failure from HuffPo, DailyKos, or the DNC? I think that is the case since I heard the man say over and over that he wanted Obama to fail in his desires to make this nation a socialist one. He never did say what lefties keep saying and there is a possibility that you folks are spinning by leaving out a word or two of what he said to make him look bad.

I am not a Limbaugh listener but I did hear what he said that day and then heard it over and over at later times. It is not the words of Limbaugh that were so wrong but the spun words of the left that were so wrong and unpatriotic.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:17 PM
 
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Is it possible that you got the words from Limbaugh about that failure from HuffPo, DailyKos, or the DNC?
What difference does it make who publishes a quote or a video?
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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What difference does it make who publishes a quote or a video?
The difference is in the CONTEXT. The liberal outlets will (and did) publish the tiny little part of the conversation where Rush said, "I want Obama to fail." They will follow that up with a conversation about how wanting the president to fail is obviously wanting the country to fail. Of course, this leads people to believe that Rush is hpong for a failure of America for his own personal gain. They will intentionally leave out and never even make reference to the entire context of the conversation, where Rush explains that he was asked to write a 400 word piece on what he feels about President Obamas ideas and plans, and how, since all Obamas ideas & plans appear to be leading to government ownership of business and government control of everything, that he sees Obamas taking the country in a very socialistic direction, which he feels is bad for America, he only needs four words; I hope he fails.
The conservative outlets will be sure that Rush's entire conversation is heard, and that quote is heard IN CONTEXT.
That's the difference it makes.
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