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Old 07-05-2009, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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d'oh! Mods?
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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CAIRO — The most important group of religious leaders in Iran called the disputed presidential election and the new government illegitimate on Saturday, an act of defiance against the country’s supreme leader and the most public sign of a major split in the country’s clerical establishment.
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The announcement came on a day when Mr. Moussavi released documents detailing a campaign of fraud by the current president’s supporters, and as a close associate of the supreme leader called Mr. Moussavi and former President Mohammad Khatami “foreign agents,” saying they should be treated as criminals.
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Perhaps more threatening to the supreme leader, the committee called on other clerics to join the fight against the government’s refusal to adequately reconsider the charges of voter fraud. The committee invoked powerful imagery, comparing the 20 protesters killed during demonstrations with the martyrs who died in the early days of the revolution and the war with Iraq, asking other clerics to save what it called “the dignity that was earned with the blood of tens of thousands of martyrs.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/wo...05iran.html?hp
This mess in Iran isn't over by a long shot, and getting interesting. Now, Akmadinnawhackjob wants to meet with Obama, no doubt hoping that a meeting with Obama will imply authentication of the phony Iranian election.

Obama should continue his relative silence on the Iranian election and let them work it out, which could well lead to a new leader in Iran. In the meantime, I'm hoping that we have some covert intelligence work going on there.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They merged your duplicate thread with my original.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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This mess in Iran isn't over by a long shot, and getting interesting. Now, Akmadinnawhackjob wants to meet with Obama, no doubt hoping that a meeting with Obama will imply authentication of the phony Iranian election.

Obama should continue his relative silence on the Iranian election and let them work it out, which could well lead to a new leader in Iran. In the meantime, I'm hoping that we have some covert intelligence work going on there.
Your hoping that we have some more covert intelligence work in iran? You mean like the covert intelligence work thatw e did in 1953 to overthrow the democratically elected pro democracy, pro peace government of doctor mossadegh? We helped the brits take him out and to install the tyrant shah of iran in his place and helped to build up his internal secret police force (the savak) who brutally tortured , imprisoned and killed any opponents that disagreed with him.

You mean the shah that we installed who was never elected. The iranian people got so desperate because of teh shahs brutality that they turned to these extremist mullahs to over throw the illegitimate shah, and now they are fighting for their freedom against this theocracy that came about because of our actions in 1953?

Is that the same covert action your talking about. Obamas policy of silence is the perfect policy right now. Obama even acknowledged this.
I suggest you read your history of our involvment in iran before wishing for more covert help. Im behind the iranian protesters 100% and i pray that they get the freedom they deserve, but lets not forget who helped to take that freedom away from them in the first place.
The world should back the protesters, but there are other ways to back them without covert operations. The world can come together and impose embargos on the government until they crack. This is a much better alternative to our covert action record.

Ron paul said it best during teh gop debates and thats why he got my vote.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:47 PM
 
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They also said that stoneing would never catch on..
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Old 07-10-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Let her alone. She's cracking all by herself.

Honduras:
There are still too many holes in everyone's stories to form an opinion.
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