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View Poll Results: Will congress pass health care reform?
Yes - we'll get a government option 15 45.45%
No 18 54.55%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-05-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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His approval numbers are sliding as he takes more and more control. Congress' approval numbers can't go much lower. Cap and trade is the next giant tax increase they want to pass. Do you think that, after cap and trade, taking over GM, and the unprescedented spending that health care will be passed by our congress? It will be towards the end of the year by the time they vote on the issue. Do you think they'll have the gumption to vote yes on such massive spending?
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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His approval numbers are sliding as he takes more and more control. Congress' approval numbers can't go much lower. Cap and trade is the next giant tax increase they want to pass. Do you think that, after cap and trade, taking over GM, and the unprescedented spending that health care will be passed by our congress? It will be towards the end of the year by the time they vote on such an issue. Do you think they'll have the gumption to vote yes on such a massive issue?
I hope not!!!!
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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Its pretty much guaranteed...
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Probably will but that doesn't make it desirable or good for the country. Now that you have a clown like Al Franken masquerading as a US Senator, it may be very difficult for any opposition to get traction. We can look forward to massive government spending, massive government debt, decrease in quality and choice in healthcare, and the government taking control of more and more of our lives.

Wooo Hooo....change we can believe in....all the way to bankruptcy and second rate healthcare.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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Probably will but that doesn't make it desirable or good for the country. Now that you have a clown like Al Franken masquerading as a US Senator, it may be very difficult for any opposition to get traction. We can look forward to massive government spending, massive government debt, decrease in quality and choice in healthcare, and the government taking control of more and more of our lives.

Wooo Hooo....change we can believe in....all the way to bankruptcy and second rate healthcare.

I am staying positive and "hopeful", so voted "hell no".
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:43 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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There will doubtless be some legislation passed. What is in the most popular bill - the Kennedy bill - is not really healthcare reform - rather, it is an "insurance mandate" padded w/ all sorts of other money hemorrhaging regs.

Americans want real reform. Nothing that can be called real reform is in any of the bills circulating on the Hill. And yes, I have looked at every one of them that is available (part of my job to do so).

We want COST REDUCTION and BETTER ACCESS - and Congress is doing a loopy-loo rather than manning up and addressing reform. Instead, they have created an ever bigger bureaucracy that would cost tax payers trillions of $$$ and still not get what Americans want - lower healthcare costs.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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This isn't health care reform, this is all about insurance -- who pays and who profits -- and nothing about actual health care. Everyone will be required to be underinsured and people will still go bankrupt paying for medical care.

I don't want health insurance, I want health care when I need it.....and I want that for everyone.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:05 PM
 
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Everyone in the USA has health care. All over the USA are clinics that take payment on a siding scale, based on income. It can be free. I am 35 miles from the nearest town and 40 miles from a free clinic.
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I want health care when I need it.....and I want that for everyone.
And I want a mansion, a Cirrus aircraft, a Ferrari, to own a baseball team, and many other things. The catch is that I can't afford them and just wanting something doesn't make it so.
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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And I want a mansion, a Cirrus aircraft, a Ferrari, to own a baseball team, and many other things. The catch is that I can't afford them and just wanting something doesn't make it so.
The penalty for not obtaining any of those WANTS isn't death but not having health insurance is. Health Care is a neccesity that should be afforded to everyone regardless of their economic situation. But I know, people in this country are so GREEDY that all they can think of is the shyt they don't have.
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