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Old 07-06-2009, 06:50 AM
 
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“It's like the stock market: it is rising or falling. Both depend on whether it's a week or a month or a year. It's the same with the temperature – if we start during the last Ice Age 15,000 years ago, then the temperatures have warmed. If you start from the Little Ice Age, which ended 200 years ago, it certainly has warmed.
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Newsmax.com - Scientist: Global Warming Claims a Lot of Hype (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming_hype/2009/07/03/231842.html?s=al&promo_code=82BF-1&CFID=520999&CFTOKEN=fa677ef7753be722-501892FE-19B9-CD82-82F3C28A8FA59597 - broken link)

Thanks to the 'believers' who listen to Al Gore, we'll now have a new tax/es resulting from the cap-and-trade bill.

Unbelievable.

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Old 07-06-2009, 07:00 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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YEAH! Let's look at the first 1/2 hour after sunset in the mountains, it's NOT getting warmer. GLOBAL warming is BS!
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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This is what happens when you rely on people who don't understand science for your news. In fact, they probably have problems with evolution, too.

Newsmax: "If we evolved from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys around? Huh?"

That's the level of scientific credibility that conservatives have, in general.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Newsmax? Sure, that will convince darn near anyone ... not!

The scientist - Singer - is an interesting person who apparently has many areas of expertise. For example, he once believed that Phobos, a moon of the planet Mars, was artificial!
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:13 AM
 
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That's the level of scientific credibility that conservatives have, in general.
You want to talk about scientific credibility, watch Al Gore's moive. He had to personally apologize to a number of scientist for citing their name after he butchered...almost flat out lied, about data and treading.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:51 AM
 
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You want to talk about scientific credibility, watch Al Gore's moive. He had to personally apologize to a number of scientist for citing their name after he butchered...almost flat out lied, about data and treading.
I see the 'global warming is naturally-caused, warming/cooling trends'...naysayers, have nothing to rebut to your factual post.

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Old 07-10-2009, 06:57 AM
 
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Man caused global warming is not BS!

See if you place the thermometer in just the right place, man can cause any temperature you want.

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Old 07-10-2009, 07:18 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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“It's like the stock market: it is rising or falling. Both depend on whether it's a week or a month or a year. It's the same with the temperature – if we start during the last Ice Age 15,000 years ago, then the temperatures have warmed. If you start from the Little Ice Age, which ended 200 years ago, it certainly has warmed.
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Newsmax.com - Scientist: Global Warming Claims a Lot of Hype (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming_hype/2009/07/03/231842.html?s=al&promo_code=82BF-1&CFID=520999&CFTOKEN=fa677ef7753be722-501892FE-19B9-CD82-82F3C28A8FA59597 - broken link)

Thanks to the 'believers' who listen to Al Gore, we'll now have a new tax/es resulting from the cap-and-trade bill.

Unbelievable.
O.K. genius where did you get your P.H.D. in climatology from?
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Smile All dittoheads report at once: today's talking point!

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Originally Posted by twowolves View Post
“It's like the stock market: it is rising or falling. Both depend on whether it's a week or a month or a year. It's the same with the temperature – if we start during the last Ice Age 15,000 years ago, then the temperatures have warmed. If you start from the Little Ice Age, which ended 200 years ago, it certainly has warmed.
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Here's the article:

Newsmax.com - Scientist: Global Warming Claims a Lot of Hype (http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming_hype/2009/07/03/231842.html?s=al&promo_code=82BF-1&CFID=520999&CFTOKEN=fa677ef7753be722-501892FE-19B9-CD82-82F3C28A8FA59597 - broken link)

Thanks to the 'believers' who listen to Al Gore, we'll now have a new tax/es resulting from the cap-and-trade bill.

Unbelievable.
man caused global warming is bs

It must be!

Rush told you so.

Flash! Limbaugh also says college professors (especially science professors) are dumb.



All dittoheads are to promulgate these talking points through the usual outlets immediately.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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Natural Variability of the Climate System

It is virtually universally accepted amongst climatologists that the earth has experienced numerous ice ages over two million years, during which global temperatures fluctuated created glacial and inter-glacial periods. The frigid temperatures allowed ice sheets to expand southward, covering much of Asia, Europe, and North America. The cooling associated with ice ages is gradual, while the terminations are relatively rapid. However, even the rapid terminations of ice ages take centuries to millennia.

Natural Climate Change on Other Planets

Since the Viking spacecraft reached Mars in the 1970s until recent readings were taken, the average temperature on Mars has risen 0.6 °C [1.1 °F] just as the average temperature on the earth has risen. Since human industrialization is clearly not to blame for the change on Mars, other causes are being considered. One possibility is that dust storms are changing the albedo of the planet, allowing it to warm, while another possibility is that solar variations from the sun are causing the warming.

Recently, it has also been found that similar to the Earth and Mars, Neptune is also undergoing global warming. Measurements taken at the Lowell observatory in Arizona have shown an increase in Neptune's brightness and temperature since 1980 following the same pattern seen on Earth and Mars. The researchers who discovered this warming suggest there may be a correlation between the warming and solar variations.
Pluto has also been found to be undergoing global warming. The overall temperature increase on Pluto has been greater than that on the earth.

On the other hand Uranus has had no net change in temperature since 1977. A rapid increase in temperature reversed itself. The reasons for this are not understood.

Global temperatures change on other planets even when there is no life, something which strongly supports the idea that humans are not necessarily the cause of earth's global warming. Moreover, the temperature on Uranus has fluctuated back and forth. There is no reason that fluctuations cannot occur on earth, too.
Although measurements have been made of the temperatures of other planets these are by no means thorough or comparable with the measurements used for earth. The short space of time over which measurements have been taken and the very limited spatial coverage means that reliable average figures have not been obtained. They have certainly not been taken extensively enough to produce a five year average temperature, which is the standard when determining temperature trends on earth.
However, if accurate measurements could be made, and their accuracy and reliability is improving over time, then they may prove useful to climate science. Their different atmospheres and distances from the sun provide natural laboratories to study climatic changes without human influences. Though of course they will not be directly comparable due to the vast differences.

Al Gore's Claims
  • Al Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate reported, "Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame."
  • Gore claims the snow cap atop Africa's Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, "Although it's tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain's foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests' humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine."
  • Al Gore is therefore an example of how in such an important debate, deceitful tactics have been used by liberals to make a position seem more solid than it is.
You can insult all you want, the bottom line is that human-caused global warming HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.

If you want to dispute that fact, you have major issues.
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