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That's your defense for your ignorance of the proposed system?
How about this - show me, in the bill passed by the House of Representatives, where it says that my business will qualify for receiving these credits.
Once you've done that, tell me how selling those credits will make up for the mountains of paperwork (not very green, eh?) that I'll have to file to prove how much CO2 I'm emitting, the lawyer/accountant I'll have to hire to make sense of the law and make sure I'm in compliance, etc.
You just don't think things out, apparently. But keep on pushing for it. The forehead smacking you'll be doing after it passes and your family can't afford to eat three meals a day will be just so worth it...
That's your defense for your ignorance of the proposed system?
How about this - show me, in the bill passed by the House of Representatives, where it says that my business will qualify for receiving these credits.
Once you've done that, tell me how selling those credits will make up for the mountains of paperwork (not very green, eh?) that I'll have to file to prove how much CO2 I'm emitting, the lawyer/accountant I'll have to hire to make sense of the law and make sure I'm in compliance, etc.
You just don't think things out, apparently. But keep on pushing for it. The forehead smacking you'll be doing after it passes and your family can't afford to eat three meals a day will be just so worth it...
Ahh, so you turn it around and hope I'll do your research for you.
Awesome, lol.
Not going to get done before the break, hopefully not ever. Sen Byrd is adamantly opposed to the bill.
Obama's drive for climate change bill delayed (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070901998_pf.html - broken link)
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Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer said her self-imposed deadline of early August for finishing writing a bill to combat global warming has been put off until after Congress returns from a recess that ends in early September.
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"We'll do it as soon as we get back" from that break, Boxer told reporters. Asked if this delay jeopardizes chances the Senate will pass a bill this year, Boxer said, "Not a bit ... we'll be in (session) until Christmas, so I'm not worried about it."
Good. That will give those who oppose it more time to get out into the public all those nasty little details of the bill.
Also, Senator Byrd's was one of the two sponsors of the Byrd-Hagel Resolution, which the senate unanimously passed, 95–0, in 1997. Byrd-Hagel stated the sense of the Senate that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing nations as well as industrialized nations or "would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States." Byrd-Hagel prevented Clinton from even trying to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, which like the Waxman-Markey "cap and trade" climate change legislation, would have put the U.S. economy at an economic disadvantage to China and India.
You guys should check out thegreenagenda.com if the gov hasn't shut the site down yet.... A whole lot of information in an easy to digest format. It could be some tin-foil hat stuff in there, but what if it isn't???
.....Business/industry will pass that cost on to the consumer through higher prices, thereby not affecting its bottom line.
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That's true to a certain point, when consumers by necessity deal with US-based businesses that are effected by cap and trade. Energy prices, construction, farm products are all likely to go up. For most manufactured products, there is no necessity of dealing with a US company. Cap and TAX drives up the prices of US-made products, without doing the same for those made elsewhere. The US already has some of the highest corporate taxes and most burdensome regulation in the world. The logical expectation is the loss of even more of the US manufacturing base, by businesses forced offshore to remain competative.
I'd like to read a good "follow the money" study on cap and trade. The trade of credits sounds like a ponzi scheme to enrich those that produce nothing, and penialize those the do. Someone stands to make a pile of money off this scam.
Didn't we cover this in another thread? These credits only apply to energy producers. Unless you're in a business such as generating electricity or producing gasoline, you'll never see a carbon credit, much less have any to sell.
And those producers pass what to the consumer? If this bill passes the Senate many will not be reelected.
Someone stands to make a pile of money off this scam.
Richard Sandor.
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