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I keep reading vague innuendos about people's objections to President Obama, but there never seems to be substantial ground to the objections. It reminds me of the tactics that immature young males played in elementary, junior high, and sadly even high school.
"Tee hee hee -- look at that ...." isn't exactly the informed basis of a responsible communication that leads to greater understanding and improved policy.
Is it his political party you are objecting to, his color, or his education, because he hasn't been in office long enough to have caused the economic crisis we are in -- that happened on President Bush's watch.
Aside from that, if you have a criticism, why not offer an alternative course as a solution?
Or, are you just casting aspersions for your own pleasure? Have you nothing better to do?
Interesting revisionist history. If I remember correctly TARP was started under (drum roll please) George Bush a Republican.
When getting crushed on ARRA, change the subject to TARP.
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The Obama administration has been pitiful in their economic projections. It is so off simple incompetence doesn't explain it.
The expert has spoken. Unfortunately, the expert doesn't seem to know the difference between a projection and a prediction or basically to have any qualification in the field whatsoever. Still, you're doing a heckuva job, Brownie...
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As a matter of fact Obama said yesterday the stimulus is working, he is the only one who believes this.
He is hardly the only one to believe this. In fact, those Blue Chip forecasters that some seem so enamored of are now looking for the recession to end in the current quarter. Kind of flies in the face of the "Obama is only making things worse" theory, wouldn't you say?
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Mmmm again no one said energy and healthcare aren't worth addressing but you are adopting one of Obama's favorite tactics, the false choice. Something or nothing. But rational people believe there is a middle ground between piling up trillions in debt and nothing.
Rational people who had what they thought was a workable middle-ground proposal would actually propose it. Still waiting on that. No wait on whining, though. The spigot's been running wide open on that stream of uselessness for a long while...
He is hardly the only one to believe this. In fact, those Blue Chip forecasters that some seem so enamored of are now looking for the recession to end in the current quarter. Kind of flies in the face of the "Obama is only making things worse" theory, wouldn't you say?
Those forecasters have been saying that since 1Q2008.
Why even Cramer has finally stopped calling bottom along with that guy from NAR.
I've listened to c-span several times. The Republicans are the minority and are treated as such. Even when they ask valid questions they are dismissed.
Listen more. Watch more. Learn more. There is no escape from the minority status of Republicans, perhaps for a very long time. They can recognize their situation and either work or whine. So far they've chosen the latter. In the health care markup in the Senate, Republicans were given better than 600 pages of advance drafts and despite staff work having already cleaned up most significant disputes, the Republicans filed more than 100 amendments for debate. Why? To delay and frustrate and create partisan soundbites to mouth to reporters in the hallways. That's all, and it sure ain't much.
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I've got no skin in the game here as I'm third party but it's sure obvious to me listening over the internet that the Repubs are snubbed every chance the Dems get.
They've been babied. Think for a moment what Tom DeLay might have done. Offhand, I can recall Chris Dodd shutting down John McCain for running his mouth off into yet another "we can't vote on language without CBO scoring" rant when you can't get CBO scoring until you have language to give them. And having staged his little show, McCain wanders off out the door and on to something apparently more important to him. But for the most part, Republicans have been given all the access they're entitled to and a little more.
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These guys are supposed to work in a partisan fashion for the greater good of the country, for ALL Americans and put that first. Instead they let their red/blue labels make their decisions for them.
The ONLY strategy of one party is to oppose everything and hope that things don't improve. It has been that way since the 111th Congress was sworn in. Invitations and offers have been made. Hands have been extended. You get nothing in return. One Senator has left that party. At least two more would if the act itself weren't against their principles. On the House side, conservative ideals are more and more embodied in the Blue Dogs. You can't do bipartisan when one side has deliberately taken itself out of the loop.
Do not worry- The Stimulus will kick in later this year? !
Stimulus Will Kick in Later this Year: President Obama - Politics and Government * US * News * Story - CNBC.com (http://www.cnbc.com/id/31862376 - broken link)
Just 6 months ago we were told that later this year we are supposed to be under 8% unemployment. Now we are told the stimulus will just start to kick in by that time.
Keep Drinking the kool aid and you wind up with a society of Drones.
Compare Obamanomics to Reaganomics:
Reagan gave America a common sense plan that involved low taxes and reduced government spending. This is how Reagan fixed our economy.
Actually, he gave us low taxes and increased government spending, and the result was disastrous. Nothing good happened until (to his credit) he realized things were going all wrong, got rid of his supply-side advisors, cancelled the rest of his tax cuts in 1982, and enacted tax increases in all of 1983, 1984, 1985, and 1986. That reversal of course along with the collapse of OPEC as a cartel was the path to relative prosperity. Poverty and homelessness still increased dramatically, but heck, that always seems to happen under Republicans...
Do not worry- The Stimulus will kick in later this year? ! Just 6 months ago we were told that later this year we are supposed to be under 8% unemployment. Now we are told the stimulus will just start to kick in by that time. Keep Drinking the kool aid and you wind up with a society of Drones.
You weren't told any such thing. You were pointed by your managers and handlers to a projection done last December on the basis of preliminary November data with the expectation that you would draw a baseless conclusion from it. You did.
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