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Old 07-12-2009, 08:43 PM
 
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Movingforward, you are on ignore, have been on ignore for quite a while because you are incapable of making an argument without resorting to fallacies. Nothing you have to say is important or relevant to the discussion.
If I'm "on ignore," why are you responding to my posts?

There's nothing "fallacious" in my argument. I have nothing to gain nor lose in making my points. I find it fascinating how desperately people want to believe that climate change is some kind of "hoax." Preposterous.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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Mf, just admit it - you will not be swayed with logic, science or reason. Your hysteria is palpable. Here are some education links for you.

The Global Warming Debate - KLFY TV 10 - Acadiana's Local News, Weather and Sports Leader |

At the bottom of this article you will find some useful links.

32000 American Scientist who do not believe in AGW;

Global Warming Petition Project

Now, practice what you preach, for the sake of your captive audience.
Sanrene, when will you learn how to research sources properly?

This ridiculous "petition" was dreamed up by a guy who is a notorious global warming skeptic--from his so-called "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine"--and tends to be a fringe player on a lot of different issues.

Here are some links for you, in return:

Global Warming Skeptic Organizations | Union of Concerned Scientists

Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine - SourceWatch
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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This ridiculous "petition" was dreamed up by a guy who is a notorious global warming skeptic--from his so-called "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine"--and tends to be a fringe player on a lot of different issues.
Yeah! 32,000 scientists are just a figment of your imagination. Why does it matter who dreamed up the organization - somebody had to do it to reflect that not all scientists believe in AGW. I suppose every one of those 32,000 scientists are not relevant.

Everything you accuse others of doing, you in fact are guilty of.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:56 PM
 
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Yeah! 32,000 scientists are just a figment of your imagination. Why does it matter who dreamed up the organization - somebody had to do it to reflect that not all scientists believe in AGW. I suppose every one of those 32,000 scientists are not relevant.

Everything you accuse others of doing, you in fact are guilty of.
Clearly, you didn't read the links. Some of those so-called "scientists" have only a B.S. degree (in more ways than one).

If you have a problem with the debunking of this group of "scientists," take it up with SourceWatch or The UCS. Or, for that matter, the leading scientific institutions in every major country in the world. I'm sure they'd be very interested in hearing your point of view.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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So, the GW fanatics are not filled to the brim with non-scientists?

The IPCC is a purely political body. The UN as well.

Both sides have their credentialed, relevant, world renown scientists.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:38 AM
 
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So, the GW fanatics are not filled to the brim with non-scientists?

The IPCC is a purely political body. The UN as well.

Both sides have their credentialed, relevant, world renown scientists.
Nonsense. On all counts.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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A predictable answer from a GW fanatic.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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Yeah! 32,000 scientists are just a figment of your imagination. Why does it matter who dreamed up the organization - somebody had to do it to reflect that not all scientists believe in AGW. I suppose every one of those 32,000 scientists are not relevant.

Everything you accuse others of doing, you in fact are guilty of.
I wouldn't bother, Ive attempted several times to discuss this with movingforward. MF is a victim of trendy participation in this subject. He thinks that simple character discredit is all that is required to disregard the Climate Audit information I have posted previously, but what he fails to understand is that the information specifically deals with the data, the lack of, the inconclusive methods, etc... That is, it can be quantified and one can attack character all day long, but it has no relevance to the facts presented. The sun doesn't stop coming up because someone claims the person making such a statement is not credible. He deals in fallacies galore and any attempt you make to discuss it honestly will be neatly brushed aside with fallacies. It is sad because they call the skeptics deniers, yet I see more denial from the believers than that of the skeptics. The skeptics can at least point to why they are not convinced, show it in verifiable form while the believers can only attack character and play political games of evasion.
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