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Obama and congress are working hard at it. I hope things get better for you!
I hope so.
Tell me, what specific parts of the House bill do you think will bring down the cost of healthcare for the middle class?
The plan expects even the poor to pay 11% of their income to healthcare before any subsidization happens. If you don't pay for it, you'll get a 2.5% tax on your income as a penalty (but still no insurance). How do you think that will affect the working class' ability to buy insurance?
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What are they doing regarding oversight by regulators ?
I haven't read anything about that in the bill.
A quote from Obama:
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Now, I’ve also said that health care costs are the biggest drivers of our deficit. Nobody disputes that. So I’m looking forward to meeting with several members of Congress who are working to pass health insurance reform that will bring down long-term costs, expand coverage, and provide more choice.
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We’ve agreed that our health reform bill will extend coverage and include unprecedented insurance protections for the American people. Under each of these bills, you won’t be denied coverage if you’ve got a preexisting medical condition. You won’t lose your health care if you change jobs, if you lose your job, or if you start a business. And you won’t lose your insurance if you get sick.
We’ve agreed that our health reform bill will promote choice. America — Americans will be able to compare the price and quality of different plans, and pick the plan that they want. If you like your current plan, you will be able to keep it. Let me repeat that: If you like your plan, you’ll be able to keep it. And each bill provides for a public option that will keep insurance companies honest, ensuring the competition necessary to make coverage affordable.
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No, the government and media have turned the masses against them.
The insurance companies today are the same as yesterday and the same as last year and the same as 5 years ago.
What's different today is that MSM and the administration have targeted them as "evil" and using that to push their agenda.
Oh please.
The works of greed by Insurance companies have been documented for decades. What they have done is criminal.
A top health insurance executive from CIGNA says that Michael Moore's movie Sicko "hit the nail on the head" because it showed how countries that have single-payer health care, such as the UK and Canada, do a better job at meeting the health care needs of their people. He then goes on to say that "we shouldn't fear government involvement in health care; there is a role for government in health care and it's been proven in the countries that are in that movie" (Sicko). The insurance industry trade association, has been manipulating the American people to scare them away from single-payer health care, denouncing it as socialist, because they (the insurance companies) will be run out of business. The industry used lobbyists to basically tell Democrats not to embrace the movie Sicko or else they would not contribute to their campaigns, fund their opponents, put out attack ads against them ect.. Guess that Sicko really scared the **** our of the insurance industry because it proves that other industrialized countries that have single-payer systems are able to do a better job of taking care of their people. For me it's really sad that these crooks have so much money and political power that they can completely screw up our health care system, make a ton of money while doing it, and strongarm our elected officials into not fixing the problem.
The Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) is a nonprofit American-based media research group founded in 1993 by environmentalist writer and political activist John Stauber.
In July 2003 Stauber and Sheldon Rampton wrote Weapons of Mass Deception: The Uses of Propaganda in Bush's War on Iraq, which argued that the Bush administration deceived the American public into supporting the war. In 2004, the two co-authored Banana Republicans, which argued that the Republican Party is turning the U.S. into a one-party state. The book argues that the far-right and its functionaries in the media, lobbying establishment and electoral system are undermining dissent and squelching pluralistic politics in the United States. In 2006 the two wrote The Best War Ever: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Mess in Iraq, which builds upon the arguments they posited in Weapons of Mass Deception.
I wonder if he supports the Fairness Doctrine and Net Neutral Content?
Well, looks like he's hard at work protecting Americans from their self-serving right-leaning mainstream media. I'm getting a tingle up my leg just thinking about it. It's great to know we have independent, unbiased watchdog organizations to expose the conservative distortions of Salon, Huffington Post, NYT, MSNBC and CNN.
Oh, look! Here's a list of some of the organizations that contribute to the Center for Media and Democracy.
Well, he likes Moore's movie. Since I'm not Jean Dixon I can't really challenge him on that. I do have an issue with a retired CIGNA executive who apparently, according to Potter, made a stack of money lying to the American public about health care issues. Now he expects intelligent people to believe that he is telling the truth this time. See, the last time, erh, well, that was all a lie, but, you know, this time it's the truth. Honest! OK, I'll simply take your word for it.
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