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Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Originally Posted by ozzie679
no, i'm saying in general that blue states better educated and they have higher incomes.
what causes the higher incomes though? the extortionists in the unions? been to detroit lately? I prefer a good balance. some of the blue states in the NE are a total nightmare as far as civil liberties.
I live in the largest red county in the country - in Texas. Above average income, above average education level, relatively diverse, etc. - nearly 2 million people and red.
anybody can cherry-pick counties, but on the whole....
ps: it's prob. coming from some oil well and when that goes.... ghost town...
I refuse to hijack my own thread, but bev purdue is embarrassing. she got destroyed by mike munger in the debates.
I am not saying anything good or bad about bev Purdue. I am just saying that the NC state democratic party is uniquely disconnected from the National Party and they really do not need and have never needed northerners to win elections on the state level, but do on the national level.
NC is weird like that. We until very recently tended to be red nationally and Blue state wide. Essentially on the national level northerners turn us blue on the local level its an entirely different game.
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Good question finalsay Here's my breakdown:
Red States: I think the South is red because they've historically been more opposed to a centralized federal government, And right now the GOP represents the smaller govt party (well, smaller than the dems anyway). Add Christianity to that and the south is red as a beet with a sunburn in July. (Did that sound "southern" enough?)
The same goes for the mountain west, which has a more libertarian streak, though that's changing with immigrants from Colorado and Mexico who tend to vote Democratic.
Blue States
The Upper Midwest I chalk up to industry and a history of progressive populism--especially in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa. Here in Michigan it's due more to industry, but we're much mor capable of electing Republicans than the other three states. West Michigan, where I live, is solidly Republican and we seesaw back and forth.
The Northeast has always supported a more active government (Remember the Federalists were strongest in New England)
And the coasts are just more progressive--not like they are in the Midwest. It's a different kind of progressive that's hard to describe.
It's really interesting because it shows the two parties as coalitions not as solid blocks. On the right you have libertarians and christian conservatives, while on the left you have the far left progressives, and the more down to earth midwestern types. They're not monoliths by any means. That's the best analysis I can give. Hope it helps
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It is all about ethnicity. Red States (or counties) are mostly people whose ancestors came from the British Isles (England, Scotland, Wales, or Ireland) from 1820 or earlier. These people came to America for religious freedom and for better economic opportunities.
Blue States (or counties) are mostly people from Communist Europe (Germany or Italy among others) much latter (1870s to 1930s) - these people have never fully embraced America and want to reestablish the communist government that their grandparents were raised in - that is why they vote for Liberals.
anybody can cherry-pick counties, but on the whole....
ps: it's prob. coming from some oil well and when that goes.... ghost town...
The energy industry has a big presence here, but there are no oil wells anywhere around.
The county has voted Republican consistently for over 50 years, with only one Presidential election going to the Dems since 1960 (keep in mind that before the early 80's, TX was a solidly Democratic state).
Originally posted by Randomstudent
I am not saying anything good or bad about bev Purdue. I am just saying that the NC state democratic party is uniquely disconnected from the National Party and they really do not need and have never needed northerners to win elections.
NC is weird like that. We until very recently tended to be red nationally and Blue state wide and locally.
I noticed that too when I was studying up on NC. (I'm moving there in a couple weeks). People don't realize that Jesse Helms never got more than 55% of the vote and he was more an exception than a rule, as far as a Republican getting elected statewide.
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