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"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
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Originally Posted by shorebaby
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
Sounds like it to me. Although most pro-choicers today would not advocate (at least not openly) for eugenics, there was a strong tie in the movement to legalize abortion and the eugenics movement before Roe vs Wade. I personally think that all babies are precious and should be given a chance at life, regardless of skin color or ancestry.
The founder of Planned Parenthood, a liberals hero, was a strong advocate for abortion to keep the black population down. Who are the greatest supporters of abortion? Democrats.
I love how HOT AIR takes a remark, italicizes one word to spin it, and achieves its goal so readily.
My, my, my, my, my, Ruth didn't talk about eugenics at all. The "population" to which she was obviously referring were the impoverished people. The perception she was talking about was single, impoverished women adding children to the welfare rolls. And that later decisions made it clear, women who have money will always have access to healthcare, including abortion, but poor women, and especially poor women in rural areas will not. That's been the result of the laws passed against abortion. They don't impede women with means at all. They force women who are poor and rural to have babies, regardless of the circumstances. Women who are in the worst position to have children are forced to have them. And are subject to all the holier-than-thou platitudes. Oh, those women shouldn't have been having sex if they don't want children. They have to become nuns to earn people's respect. Aren't they lucky?
The founder of Planned Parenthood, a liberals hero, was a strong advocate for abortion to keep the black population down. Who are the greatest supporters of abortion? Democrats.
Margaret Sanger was opposed to abortion. In the so-called Negro Project -- endorsed by such as Eleanor Roosevelt and W.E.B. Dubois -- Sanger sought to bring family planning and birth control (which is what she actually did advocate for) to the last people who were going to get access without her -- black women in the rural South.
JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.
I love how HOT AIR takes a remark, italicizes one word to spin it, and achieves its goal so readily.
My, my, my, my, my, Ruth didn't talk about eugenics at all. The "population" to which she was obviously referring were the impoverished people. The perception she was talking about was single, impoverished women adding children to the welfare rolls. And that later decisions made it clear, women who have money will always have access to healthcare, including abortion, but poor women, and especially poor women in rural areas will not. That's been the result of the laws passed against abortion. They don't impede women with means at all. They force women who are poor and rural to have babies, regardless of the circumstances. Women who are in the worst position to have children are forced to have them. And are subject to all the holier-than-thou platitudes. Oh, those women shouldn't have been having sex if they don't want children. They have to become nuns to earn people's respect. Aren't they lucky?
Well yeah she was saying kill the poor. Is that somehow acceptable in your eyes?
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