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Old 07-14-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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I'm sure you go to Church, and participate in sponsored festivities. Now, would you be open to a Muslim group, wearing a big crescent moon/star t-shirt, carrying a camera and be exactly like these idiots in the video (OP) were, and come to defend "their rights".

Or, is this yet another case of... "as long as it is not me" because y'all are pretty consistent about it.

Sorry I do not belong to a church but I have attended events put on by different churches and not only do they allow questions, they encourage questions by anyone. Only those that have something to hide want no questions. I do believe one of the tenets of Christians is to spread the word.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I'd like to see some Muslims wearing their religious symbol being intrusive and returning the favor at a Christian event. Or, a group of gays and lesbians, trying the same trickery. How do you think it will all turn out? Would you be here to defend them?
Why are you here defending Muslims assaulting others?
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:47 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I not only believe in free speech, I understand it as well. Free speech applies to both sides, not just one. I've the right to interview/record you, and you've the right to refuse being interviewed/recorded. If you believe latter is not true, I will really look forward to having a field day with you.

Besides, its not about carrying a video camera or recording things casually, stupid.
And yet you defend one side assaulting the other...odd idea of free speech.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Sorry I do not belong to a church but I have attended events put on by different churches and not only do they allow questions, they encourage questions by anyone. Only those that have something to hide want no questions. I do believe one of the tenets of Christians is to spread the word.
Christianity and Islam do share the "spread the word" thingy. It is fundamental to things they share. Having said that, do people not have the right to refuse being recorded? And if you keep doing that, doesn't it classify as harassment/aggression?

If you think it doesn't, then, I'd love to add you too to the invite I've for OZ. I tend to carry my cameras anyway.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Why are you here defending Muslims assaulting others?
Arab doesn't necessarily mean Muslims. Now that you know a little more, I'm defending people's right to refuse from being recorded. You feel they don't have that, so I've to take an opposing stand.

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And yet you defend one side assaulting the other...odd idea of free speech.
What happened to my invite, instead of playing arm chair tiger all day? Waiting for your RSVP.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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What happened to my invite, instead of playing arm chair tiger all day? Waiting for your RSVP.
Why do you need an invite to a public place???

See the festival in the video is open to the public...and so the public is free to be there.

And in the case of the booth specifically there to answer questions,to be asked questions.

You seem so quick to defend one group assaulting other different people,why is that?
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I'm defending people's right to refuse from being recorded. You feel they don't have that, so I've to take an opposing stand.
Could you post where that right is written down or what law that is???

Thanks.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Could you post where that right is written down or what law that is???
Thanks.
I would rather have you spell the same rights, when at the receiving end. I'm going to be in your part of country in August. I will DM you, so we can meet in person, have a coffee or something, and will bring my camera.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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I'd like to see some Muslims wearing their religious symbol being intrusive and returning the favor at a Christian event. Or, a group of gays and lesbians, trying the same trickery. How do you think it will all turn out? Would you be here to defend them?
As it so happens the guy wasn't representing any particular religious group nor was he there to be controversial. He simply went to ask a question at a booth and was met with resistance and hands over a camera lens.

They obviously didn't want to answer any questions on camera and that immediately sends up a red flag for me because that shows nefarious intentions.

Nothing good can come from whatever they are doing if they can't do it in the light of day, they're going to be subversive and to it behind closed doors.

That is what this man was attempting to show by asking them questions.

Instead he's met with liars, and obfuscation of the truth which is so typical of fringe groups that have something to hide.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I would rather have you spell the same rights, when at the receiving end. I'm going to be in your part of country in August. I will DM you, so we can meet in person, have a coffee or something, and will bring my camera.
Nothing to back it up huh???

Well that is understandable.

Feel free to video me or whatever you like,as long as it is in a public place I cannot control what you do.
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