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Do you actually believe the stuff you post? If so, my condolences.
Traditional marriage is neither a fantasy nor coming to an end, at least outside of California. Many are still capable of making lasting commitments. Unfortunately many others also choose unwisely. My former wife -- that's right, I have a divorce in my past -- was not one of the former after 27 years of marriage so, obviously, I was not one of the latter 27 years earlier.
It's not and has not been, for most, a matter of hate. It's a matter of faith and faith cannot be argued. It just is. I find your cavalier dismissal of it in platitudes offensive and your description of church leaders unconscienable. You have no business moderating anything and I shall be reporting that in the hopes that others have more dignity, forebearance and balance than you do.
From what I have been told the moderators are not required to be moderate at all and this forum does not care. I too have been shocked seeing the title moderator beside people that are not the lesst bit moderate.
I have been in the same marriage for many many years and so have all of my brothers and sisters. In fact of all my relatives there has only been one divorce.
I have been in the same marriage for many many years and so have all of my brothers and sisters. In fact of all my relatives there has only been one divorce.
Good for you and them. I would say I wish that had been my experience but in the end it turned out well for my children, my primary concern, and me. A few years later I married a true friend and we're approaching our 13th anniversary.
Good for you and them. I would say I wish that had been my experience but in the end it turned out well for my children, my primary concern, and me. A few years later I married a true friend and we're approaching our 13th anniversary.
I don't take vows lightly!
In my family when a marriage looks like it is in trouble everyone rallies around them because their marriage is part of our life and we do not want the cousins split away from the family which happens a lot in divorces.
If that was true than all "faiths" would simply be various expressions of a totally libertine and lawless society.
There's a major difference between discrimination and lack of approval or acceptance.
I neither approve of nor accept child molesters. Does that really mean I "discriminate" against them?
Try thinking about it!
Why are you comparing homosexuals to child molesters? There are plenty of heterosexuals who are child molesters. Do you therefore neither accept nor approve of heterosexuals?
What possible difference could someone's sexual orientation make to their capacity in serving in the church?
Also, homosexuality is natural. Always has been, always will be. It's part of Nature. Humans are part of Nature, too.
Why? Because your religious beliefs tell you that? If so, that's fine for you and your religious beliefs. But not everyone believes the way you do. People should not be forced to live according to YOUR beliefs.
Why are you comparing homosexuals to child molesters? There are plenty of heterosexuals who are child molesters. Do you therefore neither accept nor approve of heterosexuals?
What possible difference could someone's sexual orientation make to their capacity in serving in the church?
Also, homosexuality is natural. Always has been, always will be. It's part of Nature. Humans are part of Nature, too.
I would make the same comparison. I find both behaviors abhorrent and harmful to society. They are not the same but both abhorrent and unnatural acts (even if you want to compare yourself to an animal) I see that a lot from gay people about animals. It’s creepy that you think of yourself on the same level of an animal that is just reactionary instead of a human that has evolved beyond the behavior of an animal. Weird.
Why? Because your religious beliefs tell you that? If so, that's fine for you and your religious beliefs. But not everyone believes the way you do. People should not be forced to live according to YOUR beliefs.
No, not religious beliefs but the biology of the body and how it functions to continue life. There is no continuation of life from same sex so it sure doesn't take any religion to understand it's wrong.
I would make the same comparison. I find both behaviors abhorrent and harmful to society. They are not the same but both abhorrent and unnatural acts (even if you want to compare yourself to an animal) I see that a lot from gay people about animals. It’s creepy that you think of yourself on the same level of an animal that is just reactionary instead of a human that has evolved beyond the behavior of an animal. Weird.
What's "creepy" and "weird" is when people think that animals are somehow to be spit upon and denigrated. So much for "Christian" appreciation for "God's creation."
Humans haven't the least bit "evolved beyond the behavior of an animal." They are much more "evolved" than we are.
Heaven is by favor; if it were by merit your dog would go in and you would stay out. Of all the creatures ever made [man] is the most detestable. Of the entire brood, he is the only one... that possesses malice. He is the only creature that inflicts pain for sport, knowing it to be pain. ~Mark Twain
From beasts we scorn as soulless,
In forest, field and den,
The cry goes up to witness
The soullessness of men.
~M. Frida Hartley
I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it. ~Abraham Lincoln
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