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You know, there actually are people who can afford to pay for their health care - out of pocket. It seems most here don't believe it
That's fine. If one can pay out of pocket and will.
I do not agree with the fining part of opting out...as long as the option to refuse treatment is there.
But I do think you and I know that refusal in an ER of someone having a heart attack (for instance) is just not a reality.
The odds of someone willing and able to pay large amounts of cash is much less than someone needing treatment without the means to pay for it
As in most things, never will everybody be happy so decisions have to go with the odds.
Edited to add...or programs with a multitude of exceptions (which is Ok but seldom has that been known to work)
As soon as I saw that it will be a MANDATED plan (individuals are required to participate if they don't have other health insurance, or face a penalty equal to 2.5% of their adjusted gross income) I saw sixteen shades of red.
What the heck happened to Obama's promise that a government health insurance plan would not be "forced on anyone" but would merely be "one of several options"????
You could buy your own private insurance. The payroll provisions for requiring employers to provide insurance are low enough that almost every employer will have to comply.
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Originally Posted by parfleche
ichoose to go without health ins as i never need it do to my good genes and lifestyle.when i do need any care i pay cash and usually negociate a 70% discount.works for me. will never sign up for this crappy plan even if forced. i'll find a way around it just like i do every other forced tax
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Originally Posted by parfleche
dont worry about it if i get a heart attack i will die. thats how it works.but noone in my history ever had one anyway.so i dont worry about it.all died quietly of natural causes.all heavy smokers and not even lung cancer or assosiated probs.nobody gets out alive no matter how much insurance. deal with it PS all averaged over 90
You genes will only do so much for you. You could be in an accident, or exposed to some nasty communicable disease.
Another thing to consider though is, regarding the "fine" provision - we have a significant "underground" economy now - many who do not file tax returns (Yes, I know that it is wrong - but it is still reality). What will happen is this group of people will never be "fined" because you cannot collect it - and, you are going to likely see an INCREASE in the number of non filers.
I'm no economist, but I doubt that the taxes on the rich will be enough to cover the to 2 trillion dollar price tag. Are there that many millionaires in America to offset the millions of the uninsured that will be subsidized by this bill?
Does anyone have a link to the specific cuts that will be made to Medicare/Medicaid? I wonder if it will be across the board or hit certain areas of healthcare?
For those that agree with taxing "the rich" What do you consider "rich"? Earning how much per year? Because there are not enough "rich" people to tax to pay for this plan.
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