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Old 07-15-2009, 04:15 AM
 
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Achievement gap still splits white, black students : 24 Hour Breaking News : The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/260/story/732934.html - broken link)

"Closing the achievement gap was a central element of the 2002 No Child Left Behind law ..."

"A huge percentage of minority students lack the simple skills they need to function in society ..."

What can we try in our efforts to close the achievement gap. All suggestions are appreciated.

- Reel
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:29 AM
 
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Get rid of liberal teachers who are focused on socal engineering and get back to the books.
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Key West
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Get rid of liberal teachers who are focused on socal engineering and get back to the books.
This would be a great start

We could also add positive role models in the community in poor AA neighborhoods. Better mentors to help steer these youths toward educational success
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The findings constitute the first major Education Department report since President Barack Obama took office, though it was done by the agency's nonpartisan research arm, the Institute of Education Sciences. The report was based on test results from nationwide assessments from the early 1990s to 2007.
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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"No child Left Behind" was designed to force public education to babysit the disruptive instead of throwing the trouble makers out on the street. The goal of making a decent education impossible in poor neighborhoods was achieved. The bill was designed to destroy public education in favor of for profit private propaganda mills.

This bill must be removed and the public schools encouraged to concentrate their efforts on the kids that want an education and let the rest go on to an underclass existence.
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:13 AM
 
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Basic reading, writing, math and economics skills would be a great start.
They've done away with technical schools, and I think that's a problem.
I'd also like to see smaller schools located in neighborhoods, this would mean less administration.

We've been teaching to the lowest common denominator for too long.
We need to teach to the level kids can learn, call it A, B, C.
Sorry parents, not every kids is A.
Flunk the kids who don't cut it.

I used to teach school, it was less than rewarding.
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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"No child Left Behind" was designed to force public education to babysit the disruptive instead of throwing the trouble makers out on the street. The goal of making a decent education impossible in poor neighborhoods was achieved. The bill was designed to destroy public education in favor of for profit private propaganda mills.

This bill must be removed and the public schools encouraged to concentrate their efforts on the kids that want an education and let the rest go on to an underclass existence.
I'll meet you half way.

Parents seem to have given up on their children while being open to teachers who hardly know their kids diagnose them with attention problems.

This is a societal problem, not a developmental one.

Lets quit the abstinence only BS and focus on the economic reality of high school (or less) educated parents compared to college educated parents lifestyles. Lets allow our best and brightest to exceed regardless of intangibles. Lets talk to our next generation as adults and explain to them that they will not be able to afford to live in the houses they grew up in, or afford the lifestyles they are used to without an education that allows them to compete with the best and brightest around the globe. Learn the system, exploit it, or be left behind. Being average and expecting returns is a relic of the past.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:24 AM
 
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Stop with this no child left behind nonsense. The program ended up holding all the good students back to teach to the slower ones. The real world doesn't operate like that. If the kids can't keep up, then they can't keep up. It's got nothing to do with race, money, or anything else. There are smart and hard working kids in every walk of life and they'll rise to the top. The others will either be driven to do better, or they won't.

Many of us that are very successful now weren't great students, but we got our act together and worked our butts off to surpass most of our peers.

It's real life. Teach the kids reading, writing and math, and they'll figure it out. Or they won't.

It worked for a very long time like that. We only started having huge problems with these kids when they started teaching to the lowest common denominator.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:33 AM
 
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Achievement gap still splits white, black students : 24 Hour Breaking News : The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/260/story/732934.html - broken link)

"Closing the achievement gap was a central element of the 2002 No Child Left Behind law ..."

"A huge percentage of minority students lack the simple skills they need to function in society ..."

What can we try in our efforts to close the achievement gap. All suggestions are appreciated.

- Reel

I'd like them to start publishing these statistics as it relates to income and parental education. We all know there is a disproportionate number of minorities in the lower levels of the income bracket as well as parents in the lower level of education attainment bracket. It would be nice if instead of lumping all minorities in an under performing group and all whites in an over performing group (to sell papers) they actually focused on those children, who are most likely in need of educational help and spent public monies to help them.

This does not help us solve anything and only exacerbates, the stereotypes that exist between racial groups. This paper would be no different than saying Asians out perform all other American races in school. Sure it is a gross generalized fact, but it fails those Asians that do not fit into the mold and hurts other groups top performers, by lumping them in with some of their under performing peers.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Midessa, Texas Home Yangzhou, Jiangsu temporarily
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We could just get rid of grades and testing altogether and proclaim by decree that all students are above average.
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