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Old 07-23-2009, 02:31 PM
 
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That does not make you a natural born US Citizen.
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national(A "national" is a person who is considered under the legal protection of a country, while not necessarily a citizen)
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
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Old 07-23-2009, 02:46 PM
 
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Wait a minute - were people on this board discussing whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen? *audible sigh*
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:02 PM
 
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Wait a minute - were people on this board discussing whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen? *audible sigh*
No that would be the Hannity Funny Farm!
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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And yet another birther smackdown!

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TAMPA - A federal judge this morning denied a request to order the rehiring of a Lutz Army reservist who claims he was fired from his job after fighting his deployment to Afghanistan on the grounds President Barack Obama is not an American citizen.

U.S. District Judge Richard A. Lazzara wrote in a brief order that Stefan Frederick Cook's petition for a restraining order did not comply with local court rules because it was not accompanied by a complaint. The judge dismissed Cook's motion
Petition of reservist who questions Obama citizenship denied
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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SORE LOSER!!
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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Indicative of the basis of birther's opinion.

Photoshop.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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When there is no other legitimate argument based in fact, the last resort is always childish photoshop images with no supporting evidence.

The birther movement has been exposed to the light of day and is now officially dead.
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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A growing movement among conservatives known as 'Birthers' believes Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya and wants legislation passed requiring Presidents to provide an official copy of their birth certificate. Earlier this week a group of conservatives stole the Presidents birth certificate, and are now holding it ransom to stall talks on Health Care reform.

Granted, the Weekly World News are the people that brought you "Bat Boy." But they may not be that far off.


Bill Scher: Will The Birthers Kill Health Care Reform?
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:26 PM
 
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It makes my stomach turn that I’d actually have to post on this subject, but it seems no matter where I go I can’t get away from these Birthers. What are “Birthers” you ask? Well the name comes from a derivative of the so-called “9/11 Truthers” who are conspiracy theorists about what happened on 9/11. Most folks basically write them off with the same folks who claim the moon landing 40 years ago was staged.
But these Birthers are a step above your run-of-the-mill whackjobs. Their main drive is to spread the lunacy that Barack Obama can’t be the President because they claim that he was born in Kenya. This is, of course, a complete fallacy that was debunked back during the Democratic Primaries, when most of these crazy stories are handled. But that has not stopped Orly Taitz and her merry band of nincompoops from filing legal papers and instilling clearly crazy people to accost their Republican Congressman at town hall meetings set up to talk about Obama’s Healthcare plans. (Way to waste your time, but I digress.)
Gotta love Jon Stewart! more----> The Smirking Cynic 2.0 » Blog Archive » Dear Birthers (http://www.smirkingcynic.com/?p=548 - broken link)
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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Gotta love Jon Stewart! more----> The Smirking Cynic 2.0 » Blog Archive » Dear Birthers (http://www.smirkingcynic.com/?p=548 - broken link)
Oh, c'mon!

Everyone KNOWS he he's a twice-again born-again Christian or Muslim or Whatever!

Some believe he was once baptized by Jimmy the Carter.

Bet he's got at least three birth certificates.
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