Second Effort, The Real Jane Fonda (parade, activist, soldier, death)

[gy2020]

Just a reminder of who she really is !!!!!
SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!!
In Memory of
my brother -in- law
LT. C.Thomsen Wieland
who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton

She really is a traitor
A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
'100 Women of the Century.'

BY BARBRA WALTERS
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the ' Hanoi Hilton.'

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane
treatment' he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
'Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was 'missing in action'.
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
'peace delegation' visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
an d still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it , in the palm of his hand.
When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?'
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam , and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year
in a 'black box' in Hanoi
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals.'
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.
I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
'humane and lenient.'
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of '100 Years of Great Women.'
Lest we forget...' 100 Years of Great Women'
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343

[chielgirl]

It's still pretty bogus:
Jane Fonda Urban Legends

# Jane Fonda was honored by Barbara Walters in her special on ABC by being one of the top 100 most influential women of the century on April 30, 1999. True
# The passing of slips of papers to Jane Fonda and subsequent beatings that caused the death of three men is False
# The story about LTC Jerry Driscoll is False
# The story about Col. Larry Carrigan is False.
# The story about the civilian (Michael Benge) is True. It came from post he made on the internet at the Advocacy And Intelligence Index —April 28, 1999

[camping!]

Barbra Walters wrote this? I have a hard time believing that.

Still - Jane Fonda was at best an entitled Hollywood brat attempting to be 'in the know' and appear an intellectual when she jetted off to Vietnam OR she didn't care what her appearance would mean to the men who were in imprisoned at the Hanoi Hilton. Either way she really doesn't deserve to be honored as anything, much less a part of the 100 women of the Century.

[plannine]

We have someone who believes every chain email they get (as long as they agree with it in concept.) no matter how old or incorrect it might be (in this case, a good portion of the info is incorrect, and the tall-tale has been around for years). The brain is off, you might as well shut down the rest.

[delusianne]

who's "barbra walters"?

[delusianne]

That "palmed slivers of paper" story has been denied by the people who were named in "the inflammatory email" -- see snopes.

[bighappy987]

disclaimed by the POWs mentioned in the article.. snopes.com: Jane Fonda and POWs

"It's a figment of somebody's imagination" says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, one of the servicemen mentioned in the 'slips of paper' incident.

[ergohead]

Did Jane Fonda slow the end of the Viet Nam War?

Or, did Jane Fonda speed the end of the Viet Nam War?

[plannine]

Originally Posted by ergohead

Did Jane Fonda slow the end of the Viet Nam War?

Or, did Jane Fonda speed the end of the Viet Nam War?

I don't think she had any effect. On either side.

[Little-Acorn]

Here are the parts that are true.

Jane Fonda A.K.A. Hanoi Jane



Jane Fonda sitting in the operator's seat of a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun

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Close-up of Jane Fonda wearing steel helmet, part of the standard North Vietnamese soldier's uniform

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