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Old 07-17-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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Is it right that a drug addled homeless guy living over a grate gets the same vote as a business owner with 3 kids who provides jobs for a dozen people and pays taxes that subsidize two or three liberal 'families'?

Is it right that someone on welfare, food stamps and public housing who pays no taxes gets to vote hardworking folks a tax increase?

Is it right that one political party gets to consolidate its future power by creating new classes of dependents whose vote they are essentially buying?

Is it right that the mainstream media openly and actively campaigns for an unqualified incompetent because he's socialist? And uneducated undiscerning ignoramuses believe everything the MSM says?


Here's the cure. When the adults get back in power, they should pass laws that will eliminate what I call the dumbass vote:

1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.

2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.

3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature. Democrats who have cried crocodile tears over alleged voter fraud over the years have fought the commonsense measure of voter ID tooth and nail. The reason is obvious. Then dead people couldn't vote and ACORN recruits couldn't vote five times apiece.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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One way to help limit the abuses of government by democracy (read: stupid people in large groups).

Eliminate the biggest conflict of interest a voter can have.

If you receive a check from the government other than a tax rebate check, voting is a conflict of interest, as people like to vote themselves more money.

This eliminates the welfare vote, the military vote, and the government grant vote. If you receive those checks it is up to you to convince the people not receiving government funds that your efforts are worth paying your for.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Is it right that a drug addled homeless guy living over a grate gets the same vote as a business owner with 3 kids who provides jobs for a dozen people and pays taxes that subsidize two or three liberal 'families'?

Is it right that someone on welfare, food stamps and public housing who pays no taxes gets to vote hardworking folks a tax increase?

Is it right that one political party gets to consolidate its future power by creating new classes of dependents whose vote they are essentially buying?

Is it right that the mainstream media openly and actively campaigns for an unqualified incompetent because he's socialist? And uneducated undiscerning ignoramuses believe everything the MSM says?


Here's the cure. When the adults get back in power, they should pass laws that will eliminate what I call the dumbass vote:

1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.

2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.

3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature. Democrats who have cried crocodile tears over alleged voter fraud over the years have fought the commonsense measure of voter ID tooth and nail. The reason is obvious. Then dead people couldn't vote and ACORN recruits couldn't vote five times apiece.
I couldn't agree more.

A disputed quote that may or may not have sprung from 18th-century lectures by Alexander Fraser Tyler seems nonetheless prescient:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship."
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Here's the cure. When the adults get back in power, they should pass laws that will eliminate what I call the dumbass vote:

1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.

2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.

3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature. Democrats who have cried crocodile tears over alleged voter fraud over the years have fought the commonsense measure of voter ID tooth and nail. The reason is obvious. Then dead people couldn't vote and ACORN recruits couldn't vote five times apiece.
You advocate for making yourself ineligible to vote.

On that I can agree with you.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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You advocate for making yourself ineligible to vote.

On that I can agree with you.


At least he/she named themself appropriately, "clown".
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Is it right that a drug addled homeless guy living over a grate gets the same vote as a business owner with 3 kids who provides jobs for a dozen people and pays taxes that subsidize two or three liberal 'families'?

Is it right that someone on welfare, food stamps and public housing who pays no taxes gets to vote hardworking folks a tax increase?

Is it right that one political party gets to consolidate its future power by creating new classes of dependents whose vote they are essentially buying?

Is it right that the mainstream media openly and actively campaigns for an unqualified incompetent because he's socialist? And uneducated undiscerning ignoramuses believe everything the MSM says?


Here's the cure. When the adults get back in power, they should pass laws that will eliminate what I call the dumbass vote:

1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.

2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.

3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature. Democrats who have cried crocodile tears over alleged voter fraud over the years have fought the commonsense measure of voter ID tooth and nail. The reason is obvious. Then dead people couldn't vote and ACORN recruits couldn't vote five times apiece.
Fascism at it's finest, only those who agree with me get to vote
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Is it right that a drug addled homeless guy living over a grate gets the same vote as a business owner with 3 kids who provides jobs for a dozen people and pays taxes that subsidize two or three liberal 'families'?

Is it right that someone on welfare, food stamps and public housing who pays no taxes gets to vote hardworking folks a tax increase?

Is it right that one political party gets to consolidate its future power by creating new classes of dependents whose vote they are essentially buying?

Is it right that the mainstream media openly and actively campaigns for an unqualified incompetent because he's socialist? And uneducated undiscerning ignoramuses believe everything the MSM says?


Here's the cure. When the adults get back in power, they should pass laws that will eliminate what I call the dumbass vote:

1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.

2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.

3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature. Democrats who have cried crocodile tears over alleged voter fraud over the years have fought the commonsense measure of voter ID tooth and nail. The reason is obvious. Then dead people couldn't vote and ACORN recruits couldn't vote five times apiece.


I like the idea, but it's DOA. What you're talking about would require a Constitutional amendment and that will never happen.

The slime class that pervades our political ranks understands it is far easier to control the DA vote than the business owner or working person who will A) pay attention to what they're doing in Washington B) not buy their line of nonsense and C) hold them accountable. As it stands now all they have to do is promise the world and blame rich white males for all the world's ills. The DAs will never check facts or call these dirt bags to account.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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Although I could agree in spirit you're way off on the first two.

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1) Make the minimum voting age 30. Age gives perspective. For example, if you aren't old enough to remember we've been here before with Bill Clinton's con game and failed attempts at socialism, you can't appreciate the disaster Obama is heading our country for.
If you're old enough to get drafted you're old enough to vote, smae goes for drinking alcohol but that's for another topic.

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2) Allow only income earners to vote. If you aren't contributing, you shouldn't get a say. Plain and simple.
How do we define income earners? Suppose we have a single mom with just enough of a nest egg to be able to stay at home and raise her kids. Shouldn't she get a vote?

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3) Make every single voter produce an ID and cross check it with voter registration and signature.
This I can agree with as long as we're not going overboard.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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At least he/she named themself appropriately, "clown".
Actually my SN refers to the 60 Democrat clowns we have in the senate.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:47 AM
 
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Ha!
I bet OP touts how 'american' he/she is. very american - taking away the right to vote.

Let me ask you - is it fair that my vote only counts as much as some elementary-school educated hillbilly that lives miles form civilization, who is super paranoid about the boogey-man taking away his gun that he uses to shoot cans on a fence? Or some ironworker that votes away his healthcare and union benefits, becasue he doesn't want gay people he'll never meet to get married?

Just who is the 'ignoramus' vote you speak of?
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