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Old 07-17-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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5. Doctors are rewarded for prescribing drugs.
4. Big Healthcare, i.e. pharmaceutical companies, hospital networks, insurers and their support industries, spend hundreds of millions each year lobbying Congress
3. Tens of millions of healthy people choose not to pay for health insurance, putting the financial solvency of the system at risk.
2. We are killing ourselves.
1. The current system is set up to reward sickness. Doctors get paid when you see them.
And the idiots among us think this is great, demand that the status quo be maintained, which will of course only accelerate the US healhcare's race to be the worst on the planet.

For those that are today in their 30's and healthy, fight, fight hard for what you want, cause it is going to kill you when your are in your 50's and 60's.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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it isn't broken yet. just wait. the idiot that you worship will break it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Key West
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And the idiots among us think this is great, demand that the status quo be maintained, which will of course only accelerate the US healhcare's race to be the worst on the planet.

For those that are today in their 30's and healthy, fight, fight hard for what you want, cause it is going to kill you when your are in your 50's and 60's.
No mention about frivilous medical malpractice suits?

No mention about illegal aliens?
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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The government screwed it up with the HMO act.

What we need is for individuals to have insurance for disasters only. Standard medical treatments should be at prices that are advertised and those rates should be THE DISCOUNTED RATES that are given to big insurance companies. The hospitals discriminate against those without insurance by charging them triple or more the price of what the EXACT SAME PROCEDURE would cost an insurance company that was "in the network".

If I am paying $700 per month for insurance, and at the end of the year I have accumulated $8000 in medical costs, then the insurance company only has to reimburse $3800 of that because of the "network", wouldn't I come out $4600 better if I had no insurance but was allowed to pay the same fee rates that the insurance company paid for THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURES? Then I could use 1/4th of that $4600 to buy my own "disaster" insurance that I will most likely not ever need but would be okay purchasing just in case.

But lets ignore that government involvement has been a key component of the run up of healthcare cost and just let them take over the whole system and pretend they will make everything better.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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Well unversal health care is lie sayig that welfare solved the problem of proverty. All it did was a per cetange of people that had nothing to gain by working and created another special interest group adicted to governamnt intitlements .A new way of connig people you can get something for nothing to buy votes by appealing to the bottom feeders in society. Evenually you actually creat a large per centage who pay nothing i income tax and have to go after the target gropus that actaully have moeny. It called class warfare and is unsustainble.When you increase the bottom end in income then you can hold them hostage to your power .
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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The government screwed it up with the HMO act.
Up to this point anything done by "the government" is at the direction of the senators and congressmen that are bought and paid for, like cheap prostitutes, by the insurance companies and the rest of the 'for profit' health care corporations.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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it isn't broken yet. just wait. the idiot that you worship will break it.
No worship here, but after the last 8 years I certainly appreciate having a man with an IQ above room temperature in office, who was a puppet to corporate America.

How is your country prospering in Bush's trickle down prosperity?
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:41 PM
 
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No worship here, but after the last 8 years I certainly appreciate having a man with an IQ above room temperature in office, who was a puppet to corporate America.

How is your country prospering in Bush's trickle down prosperity?
Your puppet is not doing much better, bowing to his corporate masters just as Bush2, Clinton, Bush1, etc did.

How is your country prospering in Obama's version of trickle down? The sad part is that he is destroying what little bit of an economy we had left when he got to office. Things are about to get REAL ugly thanks to his nonsense.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:04 PM
 
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I think it depends on what 'side' you're on. On a very personal level I have seen first hand that private health companies will do ANYTHING IN THEIR POWER to get out of covering you if you have a medical condition. They would rather leave you out on the sidewalk bleeding to death than spend the money to treat you.

I have been barred from using my medication because the insurance company needed to 're-evaluate' my needs as a patient, then they suggested cutting my dose in half. Luckily, my specialist threw a fit and it went back to normal...after missing a month worth of doses. This is 10 years after I had been diagnosed and treated.

I have been told that they were searching for 'alternative' sources of my medication even though there is only one place in the world that makes it. I missed 3 doses. They tried to drop me as a patient after that because I wasn't taking my doses as recommended, even though THEY were the ones that stopped me from taking it!

Drug commercials should be banned from TV, Doctors should not be allowed to take kickbacks and the medical world should be allowed to go back to doing what they're supposed to be doing...treating patients.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Top 5 reasons healthcare in America is broken | Tech News on ZDNet (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-321175.html?tag=nl.e539 - broken link)



And the idiots among us think this is great, demand that the status quo be maintained, which will of course only accelerate the US healhcare's race to be the worst on the planet.

For those that are today in their 30's and healthy, fight, fight hard for what you want, cause it is going to kill you when your are in your 50's and 60's.

I definitely agree with #1.

I don't think people who don't want health insurance should be forced to buy it. It's the risk their taking...so many "healthy" people have heart attacks and strokes every day.

I hate that doctors are paid based on how many visits you make. It basically rewards the doctor for not treating you well and not providing good care. I would rather doctors be paid on the quality of their patients health, not how many visits their patients make.
I understand doctors aren't responsible for EVERYTHING but if it can be proven that the patient is not following up and keeping their end of the bargain, their INDIVIDUAL premiums will go up rather than punishing everyone in their health insurance pool for their irresponsibility.
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