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Old 07-18-2009, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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In the L.A market there was George Putnam with "One Reporters Opinion" AFTER reporting on the news without making it. There was also Jerry Dunphy of "From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California, a good evening." fame. They, along with Walter and ever so many others in many markets were true reporters, not just talking heads with hair spray and gleaming teeth.

Those were the days when the media stood for something.

RIP, Walter. I remember you anchoring the Republican and Democratic National Conventions in 1952 (Eisenhower and Stevenson). I was six. It was the first time they'd ever been televised (television was new) and I was mesmerized! Perhaps that's why I ultimately ended up in the world of politics.
I remember we always watched Jerry Dumphy and the local cbs news. There was Ruth Ashton Tayor and several other who were REAL reporters, not wind up barbies and kens doing happy news. I remember Walter (we felt like we knew him well enough) on the moon landing. He was in awe of it and didn't mind showing it but didn't have to say it. I know that his part in the Vietnam war was not liked by some but it wasn't an agenda. Today I watch CNN for awhile and feel like I'm being fed the Whitehouse line because they have gotten so used to it. Very very sad.
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Old 07-18-2009, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Godspeed, Walter Cronkite....I remember growing up and always watching him report the news. I remember being saddened when he no longer was "The News Anchor". May he rest in peace.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:13 AM
 
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Case in point: The Ted Offensive.
His conclusions about a stalemate were right, though -- we *did* have to negotiate to get out.

Journalists (and therefore we) had been told for so long that we "had them on the run," only to be surprised and shocked by the TO. The TO was the turning point in Americans' blind belief in what we were told -- the beginning of our mistrust.
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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I remember George Putnam and Jerry Dunphy...both when newsmen were remembered for their honesty and integrity in reporting than their Hollywood looks, fake boobs and whitened teeth.

What a shame the legacy of our times will be more remembered by the likes of Michael Jackson and the silly celebrity trends of American Idol.
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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His conclusions about a stalemate were right, though -- we *did* have to negotiate to get out.

Journalists (and therefore we) had been told for so long that we "had them on the run," only to be surprised and shocked by the TO. The TO was the turning point in Americans' blind belief in what we were told -- the beginning of our mistrust.
And yet the north vietnamese generals at the time said that once they were beaten back during the tet offensive they were on the ropes and nearly completely beaten. the TO was their last gasp and it failed. The American Press and the Democrats in Congress made the Tet Offensive a success.
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:15 AM
 
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And yet the north vietnamese generals at the time said that once they were beaten back during the tet offensive they were on the ropes and nearly completely beaten. the TO was their last gasp and it failed. The American Press and the Democrats in Congress made the Tet Offensive a success.
The Tet Offensive did fail, but the surprising force and scope of it brought home to theretofore trusting Americans the realization that we were being deliberately misled about our success rates there.
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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The Tet Offensive did fail, but the surprising force and scope of it brought home to theretofore trusting Americans the realization that we were being deliberately misled about our success rates there.
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Tet was a Vietnamese holiday much like our 4th of July; it celebrated their having defeated the Chinese in the past. Our commanders should have known that and been prepared.
Every American should see The Fog of War, to see McNamara's confessions about Viet Nam. Cronkite and the protesters weren't the enemy.


YouTube - Robert McNamara: The Fog of War
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