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Old 07-19-2009, 04:26 PM
 
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He only makes sense to those whom sense can be made.
Paul is a rank-and-file weirdo. Nice work on the grammar, btw....
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Old 07-19-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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Actually, it will just cost George Soros more than he had intended to spend.
It'll be worth it to see the rest of the Republicans exiled to forty years in the wilderness. Health care reform...an energy bill at long last...infrastructure parts of the stimulus package starting to kick in. "Oppose Everything!!!" was never anything better than a long-shot...looking more and more like you can just tear up those tickets...
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:04 PM
 
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How can you tell if he's being honest when nothing he says makes any sense?
maybe you just don't understand it?
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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That must have been Saddam Hussein's last grunt as the rope snapped his neck as he dropped into the gallows.

Watch the news, don't wait for the revisionism.
The only thing that changed when Saddam has hanged was that the Bush family was finally safe from the dirt that Saddam knew about them and their dealings in the Mideast that he might have disgorged had he been tried in a world court as he should have been.

I will say it again: You cannot say you won if you don't know who you fought, or why. Nixon tried that in Viet Nam by saying "We won" and pulling out.

Fact is, we didn't win there, either.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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I agree with you, but people, especially the media, didn't help. it was a failure because there was no objective. we just threw a bunch of soldiers in there and told them to be the police.
You are right(for once).
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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DeMint hits back, hard;

United States Senator - Jim DeMint (http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRel ease_id=99867a17-09e2-6f21-b777-8f3d2bac8879&Month=7&Year=2009 - broken link)

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The last time the President made grand promises and demanded passage of a bill before it could be reviewed, we ended up with the colossal stimulus failure and unemployment near 10 percent,” said Senator DeMint.

“Now the President wants Americans to trust him again, but he can't back up the utopian promises he's making about a government takeover of health care. He insists his health care plan won't add to our nation's deficit despite the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office saying exactly the opposite. And today we learn that the President is refusing to release a critical report on the state of our economy, which contains facts essential to this debate. What is he hiding?

"If the actual legislation came close to matching the President's rhetoric, he would have no problem passing this bill with huge Democrat majorities in both chambers. But Americans aren’t being fooled and are discovering the truth about his plan which includes rationed care, trillions in new costs, high taxes and penalties that will destroy jobs, and even government-funded abortions.

“Let’s be clear, there is no one in this debate advocating that we do nothing despite the President's constant straw man arguments. Republicans have offered comprehensive health care reform solutions that cover millions of the uninsured without exploding costs, raising taxes, or rationing care. We can give every American access to a health plan they can own, afford and keep without a government takeover."
All true.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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^ If the last paragraph is true, the republicans who were there during the last administration should be ridden out of D.C. on a rail for dereliction of duty, or sent to the Land Of Rubber Walls as terminally DeMinted.

If they had a plan, they were certainly quiet about it.

The ones I saw stick their heads up were all about denying health care to children. You can't expect much from scumsuckers like those.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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If they had a plan, they were certainly quiet about it.
Well, for the last two years, dems have been in control of congress.

Before that, they never had very big majorities, in fact the senate has gone back and forth between the 2 parties since 1998.
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Well, for the last two years, dems have been in control of congress.

Before that, they never had very big majorities, in fact the senate has gone back and forth between the 2 parties since 1998.
Actually the Dems had a slim majority without enough power to actually pass any legislation or stop too much of it they didn't like.

But, if the last two years bother you that much, how about revisit the previous six years and tell us why the republicans collectively sat on their hands rather than pass legislation to benefit anyone other than the wealthy?

BTW - Don't try to convince anyone that the republicans weren't COMPLETELY in power from 2001-2006. It won't fly.
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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We know you wanted it to fail but Iraq is an unqualified victory. Keep trying.


You're right! For the $$$ sucking corrupt Iraqi government.

It just amazing how the same people who continually cry SOCIALISM! when we talk of spending $$$ on AMERICANS are so happy spending it on a bunch of Arab weasels with NO benefit to the US
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