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Old 07-20-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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There has been no mercury in vaccines except for flu vaccine since about 2001, and preservative-free (mercury free) flu vaccine is available. As for formaldehyde, here is a link;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal This is mercury.

Formaldehyde : Vaccine Education Center - Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75809 - broken link)

What do you mean by "foreign proteins"?
INFORMED CHOICE - Cocktail

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Old 07-20-2009, 11:29 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but an article written by a person who wil only identify herself as Katherine M. does not carry a lot of cred with me. I work in pediatrics and have never, in almost 40 years seen a death or even a serious reaction to a vaccine. I have probably given thousands of vaccines in my career and never seen any of the stuff these anonymous idiots write about. You'd think if it were so common, I'd have seen at least ONE case, but no.
Ok, so here's a bunch of PHD's amd MD's voicing their concerns;

Bernard Rimland, Ph.D., has provided the statistics that, in their experience, from 50 to 60% of parents with autistic children believe that their children were damaged by vaccines. In our own office we have seen many autistic children in recent years, and our own experience has been very similar, many parents reporting that deterioration of their children took place following vaccines." Dr. Buttram


Bart Classen, a Maryland physician, published data showing that diabetes rates rose significantly in New Zealand following a massive hepatitis B vaccine campaign in young children, and that diabetes rates also went up sharply in Finland after three new childhood vaccines were introduced. The FDA admits that the 12,000 reports it receives annually on pharmacologic side effects from vaccines represent only a fraction of what actually occurs. read more

Vaccines Warning: Are they really safe and effective?
 
Old 07-21-2009, 01:52 AM
 
Location: California
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Anyone got a link on how these kids are dying from Hep vaccines? What's it doing....stopping their heart, destroying their lungs, causing a stroke? That's what I want to know.
 
Old 07-21-2009, 02:21 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Data created by the government’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) in 1996 confirm 872 serious adverse events in children under 14 years of age who had been injected with Hepatitis B vaccine.

These kids were either taken to an emergency room, had life-threatening health problems, were hospitalized, or were disabled following the vaccination. 214 had the Hepatitis B vaccine alone, and the rest received it in combination with other vaccines. 48 kids died after being injected with Hepatitis B vaccine in 1996, and 13 of them had received the Hepatitis B vaccine alone just before they died. In contrast, in 1996 only 279 cases of Hepatitis B disease were reported in children under age 14.

...Merck, makes almost $1 billion USD a year from this single product.


Hepatitis B Vaccination for Newborns: Good Intentions, Bad Science, Worse Policy
and I wonder why there were only 279 cases of hep B that year???
 
Old 07-21-2009, 02:26 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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The scary thing is that some innocent parents were charged with murder due to 'shaken baby' syndrome, when it ended up being a reaction to vaccines. I believe that most of the vaccinations given to infants cause more harm than good.


Shaken Baby Syndrome or Vaccine-Induced Encephalitis?
then I guess you consider polio and small pox to be mild illnesses???

Smallpox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The disease killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans each year during the 18th century (including five reigning monarchs), and was responsible for a third of all blindness.[3] Of all those infected, 20–60%—and over 80% of infected children—died from the disease.


Poliomyelitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although major polio epidemics were unknown before the late 19th century, polio was one of the most dreaded childhood diseases of the 20th century. Polio epidemics have crippled thousands of people, mostly young children; the disease has caused paralysis and death for much of human history

now I wonder why would you want to vaccinate against hep B?
Hepatitis B - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
About a third of the world's population, more than 2 billion people, have been infected with the hepatitis B virus.
Chronic hepatitis B may eventually cause liver cirrhosis and liver cancer—a fatal disease with very poor response to current chemotherapy.

now if you don't care if your child ends up with cirrhosis, please don't vaccinate. Mine are safe and have received all vaccines safely.
 
Old 07-21-2009, 02:27 AM
 
Location: California
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I believe that most of the vaccinations given to infants cause more harm than good.
Then you would be wrong. Moronic even.
 
Old 07-21-2009, 02:29 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Ok, so here's a bunch of PHD's amd MD's voicing their concerns;

Bernard Rimland, Ph.D., has provided the statistics that, in their experience, from 50 to 60% of parents with autistic children believe that their children were damaged by vaccines. In our own office we have seen many autistic children in recent years, and our own experience has been very similar, many parents reporting that deterioration of their children took place following vaccines." Dr. Buttram


Bart Classen, a Maryland physician, published data showing that diabetes rates rose significantly in New Zealand following a massive hepatitis B vaccine campaign in young children, and that diabetes rates also went up sharply in Finland after three new childhood vaccines were introduced. The FDA admits that the 12,000 reports it receives annually on pharmacologic side effects from vaccines represent only a fraction of what actually occurs. read more

Vaccines Warning: Are they really safe and effective?
wow, 50% of the parents BELIEVED that their child was injured by the vaccine. yet no clinical proof what so ever. You wanna know what the autism rate is for vaccinated vs unvaccinated children??? exactly the same.
And what are these FDA side effects? mild symptoms, flush/ fever/ malaise that goes away untreated in a day or two.
 
Old 07-21-2009, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Bart Classen, a Maryland physician, published data showing that diabetes rates rose significantly in New Zealand following a massive hepatitis B vaccine campaign in young children, and that diabetes rates also went up sharply in Finland after three new childhood vaccines were introduced. The FDA admits that the 12,000 reports it receives annually on pharmacologic side effects from vaccines represent only a fraction of what actually occurs. read more

Vaccines Warning: Are they really safe and effective?
This is like the "birther" threads. As soon as someone disproves one wacko claim, someone else comes up with another one. "Correlation does not prove causation" in re: to vaccines and diabetes, autism, or anything else. One dr. who "proved" that vaccines cause autism in Britain actually lost his medical licesnse when his research was investigated, but sadly, not until he had convinced many well-meaning parents not to immunize their kids against measles, mumps and rubella, which saw a resurgence with all the attendant complications.
 
Old 07-21-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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This is like the "birther" threads. As soon as someone disproves one wacko claim, someone else comes up with another one. "Correlation does not prove causation" in re: to vaccines and diabetes, autism, or anything else. One dr. who "proved" that vaccines cause autism in Britain actually lost his medical licesnse when his research was investigated, but sadly, not until he had convinced many well-meaning parents not to immunize their kids against measles, mumps and rubella, which saw a resurgence with all the attendant complications.
Here's some more 'wackos', the woman in the film lost her daughter, the other an MD, you know, just your run of the mill 'wackos'.

'Basically, vaccines contain either killed viruses or bacteria, germ components, toxic extracts or live organisms that have been made less virulent--a process called attenuation. To stimulate an enhanced immune reaction against these organisms, manufacturers added powerful immune-stimulating substances such as squalene, aluminum, lipopolysacchride, etc. These are called immune adjuvants.

The process of vaccination usually required repeated injections of the vaccine over a set period of time. The combination of adjuvants plus the intended organism triggers an immune response by the body, similar to that occurring with natural infections, except for one major difference. Almost none of these diseases enter the body by injection. Most enter by way of the mucous membranes of the nose, mouth, pulmonary passages or GI tract. For example, polio is known to enter via the GI tract. The membranes lining these passages contain a different immune system than activated by direct injection. This system is called the IgA immune system.

It is the first line of defense and helps reduce the need for intense activation of the body’s immune system. Often, the IgA system can completely head off an attack. The point being that injecting organisms to induce immunity is abnormal.'

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=44853 602

http://www.cidpusa.org/vaccinedangers.html
 
Old 07-21-2009, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Immunization Action Coalition

There is enough on there to keep you busy for months.

You might actually learn something.

You can always find a doctor who will agree with you. However, the vast majority of physicians favor vaccines, as do their professional groups.
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