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....not even Margaret Thatcher could have successfully privatized the British NHS. If she'd tried, the Poll Tax riots would have looked like a picnic in comparison to the s**tstorm that would have been unleashed.
Many modern Countries have successfully set up UHC's. The UK would have had no problem setting up a UHC either. The poll tax was a completely different issue. Thatcher tried to change the taxing system for properties in the UK. She tried to tax individuals instead of having what was then called "rates". She taxed every member of a household instead of just charging a rateable value for each property. This caused mayhem with many renters moving before paying their tax and admin on those who could not be found building up. Husbands were being held responsible for the poll tax of their wives even though it was supposed to be a individual tax. This whole shambles caused widespread unrest and led to revolts and non payments of the poll tax. The tax was scrapped and a "Council tax" was introduced that was charged on each property and not on each householder, a bit like Housing tax in America. No one has protested about the "Council Tax" and everyone pays it. If their was a health system in the UK like the present Health System in America there would be protests in the streets to make sure that every British Citizen or legal resident got Healthcare. Even though America and the UK are similar in many ways, in the UK there would be outrage if the Schooling or Healthcare was treated like a luxury item. Brits feel that a basic human right is for Healthcare to every citizen and Schooling for every Child.
Many modern Countries have successfully set up UHC's. The UK would have had no problem setting up a UHC either. The poll tax was a completely different issue. Thatcher tried to change the taxing system for properties in the UK. She tried to tax individuals instead of having what was then called "rates". She taxed every member of a household instead of just charging a rateable value for each property. This caused mayhem with many renters moving before paying their tax and admin on those who could not be found building up. Husbands were being held responsible for the poll tax of their wives even though it was supposed to be a individual tax. This whole shambles caused widespread unrest and led to revolts and non payments of the poll tax. The tax was scrapped and a "Council tax" was introduced that was charged on each property and not on each householder, a bit like Housing tax in America. No one has protested about the "Council Tax" and everyone pays it. If their was a health system in the UK like the present Health System in America there would be protests in the streets to make sure that every British Citizen or legal resident got Healthcare. Even though America and the UK are similar in many ways, in the UK there would be outrage if the Schooling or Healthcare was treated like a luxury item. Brits feel that a basic human right is for Healthcare to every citizen and Schooling for every Child.
That's my point -- people would take to the streets in the UK (and in most countries) if the healthcare system were a complete shambles like it is here in the US. It would not be tolerated elsewhere, which brings me back to my original point that if Thatcher would have seriously tried to "sell off" the NHS, there would have been mass protests and it would have been ugly. No British person I know would trade the NHS for a "for profit" system, even with the faults of the NHS.
you're not going to be forced to change if you like your plan...
That is Obama type Pelosi and you know it. Public option will lead to the dropping of people from work paid insurance and there is no choice at that time but public option. Haven't you managed to hear that the first two years of this will lead to about 120 million people losing their programs? You should listen more carefully to what some other than Obama and his toadies say.
When small businesses find that they can shift their people to public option they will drop them like hot potatoes. Most of them will have trouble keeping up with insurance and taxes that are being proposed.
Yet you drive on our roads, you benefit from the protection of local law enforcement agencies and to a greater extent, you benefit from the protection of our armed forces. Oh, and unless you attended private school from four years of age, I'm sure you've reaped the rewards of our public education system.
Catch my drift?
Your drift is an attempt to call things that all governments provide their people socialist but they just aren't that at all. I don't think you have read many constitutions either state or federal. Try it sometime
Another BS line I hear from the anti-intellectual GOP Einsteins like Rush Limbaugh. Today, I had a medical emergency and I spent nearly one hour on the phone just jumping through all the hoops and going through all the red tape just because I needed to be seen right away for a condition. After being transferred around more than 5 times, they had me talk to a "patient advocate" who almost discouraged me from seeing someone right away, I finally was able to get through her head that I had no choice. She referred me to the Hennepin County Medical Center which is basically an emergency room. I sat there for 2 and half hours and I will have to be back tomorrow at 7 am because no one there was able to prescribe any medication. I am not saying that the Government is the solution to the problem but the current system we have is a laughing joke. I could only imagine what I would have to go through if I did not have any insurance
I checked out your post history....lookin' at everything you said.
Nothing positive to say about anything.
Your hate spews like wildfire.
Troll.
Period.
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