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Old 07-22-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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you seem to have missed my brilliant "obama has a time machine" theory.
Well, a true messiah does transcend time and space...



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you are correct, then why doesnt this waste we call our President make these records public...Doesnt it bother the left that many of these documents are sealed?

Guess not.
This really has nothing to do with "the left" or the value of our president. It is about factual evidence. Let's stay on topic.


I'm struggling to recall a president who has not protected his records, but Obama did produce a raised-seal birth certificate and had his birth announced so there's no debate left on that issue.

He also went to Columbia and Occidental, but since you have not seen those records should we now doubt that he went there?

No. It's not incumbant upon himself to expose the world to his sophomore year poli sci essays.

I believe what we are dealing with here is irrational fear.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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If you are correct, then why doesnt this waste we call our President make these records public...
The records have been public for a year. The lunatic fringe insists they're fake. The lunatic fringe insists that Obama's parents faked that 1961 newspaper birth announcement. They insist that the state of Hawaii is faking a birth certificate for him. They insist that "sources" claim all legitimate records involving Obama have been faked by a worldwide supersecret consrtium of government and academia.

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Doesnt it bother the left that many of these documents are sealed?
They aren't sealed. Please see above.

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Guess not.
Doesn't it bother the "birthers" that they are being massively exposed to the general public as being not only the lunatic fringe, but also the dumbest of the dumb?

Guess not.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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The records have been public for a year. The lunatic fringe insists they're fake. The lunatic fringe insists that Obama's parents faked that 1961 newspaper birth announcement. They insist that the state of Hawaii is faking a birth certificate for him. They insist that "sources" claim all legitimate records involving Obama have been faked by a worldwide supersecret consrtium of government and academia.
You forgot to mention the one "curing" at a museum in Canada!
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:34 PM
 
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Why would the state of Hawaii provide a false document back in 1961? Who knew then that this would become an issue now?


FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.




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Old 07-22-2009, 04:40 PM
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Do you guys who were around the forum during the campaign remember how we were promised every day that "tomorrow at 9:30 AM there will be a major breaking news event that will turn the election upside down and spell the end for Obama?" Well, that "major news event" never happened so now they have just moved on to this. Let's face it. If they had been PRESENT at the birth in Hawaii they still wouldn't believe it because they just can not, will not, will never accept the fact that THEIR PRESIDENT is a black man with the name Barack Hussein Obam. They can twist it and turn it every way they want but everyone KNOWS that is the truth.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:42 PM
 
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You forgot to mention the one "curing" at a museum in Canada!
Didn't know about that one.

I hope someone is looking into this. Might be BIG!
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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Here is something that was posted on World Nuts Daily forum;

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Orly Taitz [legal counsel for Alan Keyes as well as Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook], was interviewed today (Monday, 20 July) on AFR radio, by Bryan Fischer, host of “Focal Point”866-963-2037.
Until last week Mr. Fischer was the Executive Director of the Idaho affiliate of the American Family Association, the Idaho Values Institute.

*Orly mentions the program on her blog here: Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire

Immediately afterwards, during the open line call-in portion of the show, a purported Harvard classmate of Obama’s called in to report that he specifically remembers a discussion wherein OBAMA ADMITTED to classmate(s) that he was BORN IN WHAT IS NOW KENYA.

I know, I know, it is 3rd-party heresay. BUT: the caller knew Barack personally while at Harvard, and left his phone number with the AFR host in case of any need to verify facts.

Also – has ANYBODY heard from any of his classmates at Occidental to verify that he was there on a foreign student program or scholarship? We know LOTS about every previous President and candidates (remember the flap when it was revealed that Bush had better grades than Gore and Kerry both?) - so why have ALL of Obama's student records, scholarship applications, foreign adoption papers, etc. been sealed and/or confiscated?
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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Didn't know about that one.

I hope someone is looking into this. Might be BIG!
Bigfoot slayer Ed Hale uncovered that one!
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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I think what distinguishes Obama from the others you mentioned are his curious antecedents. And that's what keeps this issue alive. For most presidents and presidential candidates it's an easy matter to investigate their birthplace and speak to family members and friends, teachers etc. It's not that easy for Obama. His parents are dead. His relatives are either Kenyan or Indonesian. In other words his childhood is shrouded, not as clear as others.
I don't think that's all of it. George Romney (father of Mitt) was born in Mexico to US born parents whose own parents fled the US to practice polygamy. Geo Romney ran for pres in 1968, and while this information was public knowledge then, no one seemed to care. There are three presidents (at least) who had parents who were not US citizens. No one seemed to care about that either. What's the difference? Obama is black.

BTW, Obama is not realted to anyone in Indonesia. Lolo Soetoro was his step-father.
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:06 PM
 
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NBC's Brian Williams takes on the birthers!

NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams: News and videos from the evening broadcast NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams: News and videos from the evening broadcast- msnbc.com
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