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View Poll Results: Are you content with the current healthcare system in America
Yes 52 20.55%
No 104 41.11%
Yes and No (Some parts are good, some are bad) 97 38.34%
Voters: 253. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-31-2009, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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I really don't like this term, 'aborta-care' I would rather there not be any abortions too, but this kind of slander is a little over kill with propaganda. There are many good things that are being totally ignored, my favorite being you can still get insurance with pre-existing conditions, that's a big deal for Americans since collectively our health has gone down the toilet. More preventitive care obtainable with the possibility of having insurance could make us healthier!
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And if we're healthier, the less money is gone through lost work time and monies paid! It would save us money at the same time! Great idea!

 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I especially love the part where the Obama says "it's strictly voluntary"

Then, you read the legislation and find that if you choose not to have / purchase insurance, you will be fined - 2% of your annual pay / salary.

Of course, there is no description on how they will enforce the fine - but heck, we can trust our representatives, right?
 
Old 07-31-2009, 10:28 PM
 
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We have rights to those specified in the Constitution, everything else was meant to be on us. This is how the country was founded. Isn't this common knowledge?

Go back and read through it please! We don't have a right to eat! We have a right to pursue means to get food, but it isn't the government's job to take care of us - only to give us the freedom to take care of ourselves!

The government isn't your mother, cut the apronstrings.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Bristol, WI
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It would be great to have a compehensive, universal health program like western Europe and Japan have. But to have it, we need a vibrant industrial economy like western Europe and Japan have. This country has been in serious economic decline for several decades. And I'm not talking about the stock market. The stock market is junk. We are running out of real things to put stock in. Twenty years ago, Walmart only sold goods made in America and General Motors was the biggest industrial corporation in the world. Now American-made goods are virtually unattainable anywhere and GM is a cottage industry.

National health is like a new car or a French Provincial living room suite: Very nice to have, but you better be able to afford it. We need to protect what is left of our industry and encourage its growth or health insurance will be the least of our worries. We are becoming Bangladesh with strip malls. After a few more years of this, Bangladesh may be better off. Good for them.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 11:26 PM
 
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What a misleading OP, from the first few posts, it seems people thought the question was "do you agree that we need health care reform" instead of "are you content with the current health care system in America?" I voted no because I am not content with the current health care state, capitalizing on income while ignoring needs of patients.
 
Old 08-01-2009, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Like a great deal of what gets passed in DC it is destined for trouble.
The Gov has to be the worst at managing anything, why would I want them to manage my health care? Add to this the fact that they still don't have a clue how to pay for it.
How did the gov do with regulating the banking industry? How are they doing energy?
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Sorry I don't buy into big brother knows best. He can't even manage the budget.
 
Old 08-01-2009, 07:19 AM
 
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Regardless of the pros and cons of this program I think there is a major oversight. We have a shortage of MD's in this country right now. If everyone has health coverage at one time the burden on MD's will be overwhelming. Another option would be that MD's would quit taking new patients leaving the majority without healthcare anyway. Unfortunately, we are being lead by a president who thinks he can snap is fingers and money will fall from the sky, or in this case, doctors will come out of the woodwork.
 
Old 08-01-2009, 07:27 AM
 
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Then I guess you should all give up medicare since it is run by the gov't. It may not be perfect ( as any health care reform will not be perfect ) but it is sure is nice to have even if you are rich enough to pay cash for your health care.
 
Old 08-01-2009, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Default Health care

I have a friend that has recently become a raging conservative and he made the statement that health care is a privilege not a right. I am a republican and I am not quite sure I agree with this statement.
 
Old 08-01-2009, 08:21 AM
 
Location: The Shires
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I have a friend that has recently become a raging conservative and he made the statement that health care is a privilege not a right. I am a republican and I am not quite sure I agree with this statement.
I don't agree with that statement either and I'm not exactly a raving liberal. In most other countries, basic healthcare is considered a right, just like education.

Unfortunately, I don't see much changing here. There's too much opposition to any form of universal healthcare, stemming from a huge distrust of the Federal Government (although I don't know why people would trust private insurers any more).
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