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You have reminded me so much of the movie, Soylent Green, from the early 70s. Just exactly what those people had is being proposed by the people of the far left that control the Democrat Party now. They are talking about telling old people it is time for them to go so they won't cost the system money to keep them alive. The major difference is that we will have all that clean air and they didn't have anything like that, and we won't be made into those super wafers that are then fed to people to keep them happy. Their places of euthanasia were such peaceful places where people could see scenes of beauty from all over the world with soft, peaceful music playing.
Yes that is just what is being proposed to us when we get old or infirm.
My God, it is amazing that people can't see through what is going on. Yes, the Congress is willing to pass all this crap but don't ask them to live under this kind of laws. Some really are more equal than others. The ones that bother me are the ones that wrote the bills. Those people come from the White House cabal and one of the main ones is Ezekiel Emanuel. Sound familiar. Well it should because Zeke is Rahm's brother. You know Rahm, David Axelrod and others of the old Chicago gang.
Ohhh...
I'm so scared. Mommy!!
Live in fear if you must, Roy. Me, I'll ride my brand spankin' new Road King. I'll think of you while I'm cruising the Lonliest Road in America doin' 85. Life is great! Cheer up, Roy. You can have fun too. Just say to yourself, "I think I can, I think I can..."
Wrong. It is NOT MANDATORY. It is only a reimbursement provision for Medicare recipients over the age of 65.
It took me a while to finally find it, but I found out why this discussion is even taking place. Yet another wingnut has opted for the tried-and-true method of Scare Tactics. Isn't anyone else fed up with what we suffered through under Dubya?
It sounds like politifact hasn't changed a whole lot since Obama was inaugurated. You don't, of course, see any left leaning in that site but I do.
Can you explain these words as they apply to life and death? "Mandatory counseling for all seniors at a minimum of every five years, more often if the seasoned citizen is sick or in a nursing home... That's an invasion of the right to privacy. We can't have counseling for mothers who are thinking of terminating their pregnancy, but we can go in there and counsel people about to die."
These words came from your site and are quoting McCaughey. I guess you do know that there is no requirement for the same kind of consultation for women wanting to abort their pregnancies but they are required for old people. Is a probable death included in each case? I think so.
Can you take the word of Reads2Much and twist them with left spin enough to make them mean something else. That poster said that this bill is not a health care bill but is an insurance bill. Now what can you lefties use to explain how it is not that way? I await your answer with bated breath.
Live in fear if you must, Roy. Me, I'll ride my brand spankin' new Road King. I'll think of you while I'm cruising the Lonliest Road in America doin' 85. Life is great! Cheer up, Roy. You can have fun too. Just say to yourself, "I think I can, I think I can..."
I think that I not only can, but surely will continue to fight this attempt at inserting socialized medicine into our system. Once the government is the only insurer they are in control of who gets what and since the writers of this bill were Ezekiel Emanuel and some of his buddies from the White House none of the Reps have read it and won't be doing that unless the Blue Dogs force them to do so or they promise to vote NO. Can this bill be defeated without all of the Blue Dogs voting with Madame Pelosi?
Tort reform is high on our list. Keep the snakes out of the ER and perhaps prices would come down some. Many of our clients are doctors and we were shocked at how much their malpractice insurance runs.
I will tell you something that Obama woudn't want out in the open since his buddies, the trial lawyers want to be able to make money from insurance companies.
in 1985 my second son was born after some real time consuming problems with an intern getting to take his first turn at birthing, with the constant oversight of the physician involved. After all was done it was about 3:00 am and the young guy asked me if I would like to have a beer with him. Of course, in our tiny town there was no place for that at that hour but he had some beer in his room in the hospital and said ice would work quite well. The kid knew that fact for real.
Anyway while we were talking he revealed to me how that doctor spent $25,000 for just that one part if his practice. Since the doctor was just one of those old timed GPs who still delivered babies, in spite of the chances of being sued he sure wasn't just a "baby doctor". The man took care of 43 women and their babies that year and made considerably less than the protection money he spent to be able to remain solvent.
I wonder how much the old man would have to pay out for maternity care today. 24 years later and God knows how many raises from the number of suits from trial lawyers it surely is a whole lot more than that. People wonder why specialists get paid such high fees but never think how much it costs them to protect themselves.
No, I don't think what I said is doublespeak. It's possible not to go to the dr for 5+ years. The reason there needs to be this directive is that way too many people, as evidenced by some of the stories on these threads, come to the end of their days with absolutely no plan in place and the family has no idea what they pt. wanted, or one family member says they "know" the pt. wants "everything", while another says they know the pt. was nothing done, etc.
You need to know that insurance companies have all sorts of mandates on docs as to what the "standards of care" are. This is not that unusual.
Yep insurance companies know about frivolous, get what we can suits and how juries have a tendency to rule. Both the doctors and the insurance companies are in a hard spot with the system we have now, and some of the people want to make it worse.
I'm odd I guess. I'm conservative but believe Obama is doing the right thing about health care. I've lived in Germany for the past twenty years and have come to admire their health care system. Now that I'm 65 and facing retirement with nothing but Medicare (which everyone seems to want to kill), I'm praying that universal affordable health care will become a reality in the US.
Would you be able to admit that health care reform has very little to do with what is being considered? What the Dems want to do is to kill all insurance companies, because there is no way they can compete with the government that can afford losses because they can use tax money to pay for those losses or just crank up the printing presses. This is much more health insurance than health care reform. We need the reform but we don't need the government providing the insurance.
I doubt it. Most Canadians, according to polls, surveys, etc. are happy with their system, and even if unhappy, do not want to switch to a US type system.
Why would they want to switch when they can so easily come here for the things they have to wait on there? Just wondering.
Outfox 'em. Tell them you don't need an Advance Directive because you don't intend to die.
That'll baffle the government thugs.
I am like another poster said today. I had a heart ablation and bypass a few years later, at two different hospitals and had to sign papers about my plans. I wonder why they required that kind of thing. Maybe it had to do with possible legal suit.
The hospital people didn't take kindly to me telling them that I didn't intend to die.
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