Read some of the Health care bill...OMG... (employment, salary, premium)

[Pawporri]

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[SouthCity09]

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accts for election funds transfer

Seriously, why do you people let these blogs and websites make fools of you.

I am reading the bill right now, page 54, line 21-24 say the following

21 Such title is further amended by inserting after section
22 2753 the following new section
23 SEC 2754 Ensuring Value and Lowering Premiums.
24 The provision of section 2714 shall apply to health



destroying the bs posted by the rightwing nutjobs

[delusianne]

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – a Government committee (good luck with that!) will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.

"GENERAL.—There is established a private-public advisory committee which shall be a panel of medical and other experts to be known as the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced, and premium plans."

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[sanrene]

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Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accts for election funds transfer

Seriously, why do you people let these blogs and websites make fools of you.

I am reading the bill right now, page 54, line 21-24 say the following

21 Such title is further amended by inserting after section
22 2753 the following new section
23 SEC 2754 Ensuring Value and Lowering Premiums.
24 The provision of section 2714 shall apply to health

destroying the bs posted by the rightwing nutjobs

You can't even read; Pg 59 lines 21-24.

21 ‘‘(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in
22 order to allow automated reconciliation with the
23 related health care payment and remittance ad24
vice;

Destroying the ignorance and stupidity of left-wing nutjobs.

Really; people need to read this monstrosity of a bill. Do you realize they will be creating a gigantic bureaucracy to oversee all this crap?

[SouthCity09]

Originally Posted by sanrene

You can't even read; Pg 59 lines 21-24.



Destroying the ignorance and stupidity of left-wing nutjobs.

Really; people need to read this monstrosity of a bill. Do you realize they will be creating a gigantic bureaucracy to oversee all this crap?

so that means the Govt can access your bank account for money to be used for elections?

[sanrene]

Election - not as in voting - as in electing your HC choice.

Still, you would be ok with the government having access to your bank account - for whatever reason?

[floridasandy]

i thought this part was interesting in the health bill:
Requirement to Be Public or Non-profit-
(1) IN GENERAL- No institution may be a participating provider unless it is a public or not-for-profit institution.
(2) CONVERSION OF INVESTOR-OWNED PROVIDERS- Investor-owned providers of care opting to participate shall be required to convert to not-for-profit status.
(3) COMPENSATION FOR CONVERSION- The owners of such investor-owned providers shall be compensated for the actual appraised value of converted facilities used in the delivery of care.
(4) FUNDING- There are authorized to be appropriated from the Treasury such sums as are necessary to compensate investor-owned providers as provided for under paragraph (3).


i don't hear much about the cost of that being mentioned.

[SouthCity09]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Election - not as in voting - as in electing your HC choice.

Still, you would be ok with the government having access to your bank account - for whatever reason?

it doesn't even say that. its a electronic payment system...i use it to pay my bills now.

[delusianne]

Originally Posted by floridasandy

i thought this part was interesting in the health bill:
FIRST PRIORITY IN RETRAINING AND JOB PLACEMENT; 2 YEARSOFSALARYPARITYBENEFITS.—

The Program shall provide that clerical, administrative, and billing personnel in insurance companies, doctors offices, hospitals, nursing facilities, and other facilities whose jobs are eliminated due to reduced administration—

(1) should have first priority in retraining and job placement in the new system; and shall be eligible to receive two years of USNHC employment transition benefits with each year’s benefit equal to salary earned during the last 12 months of employment, but shall not exceed $100,000 per year.

so the government will eliminate private sector jobs and then supply them with government welfare for 2 years. i wonder how that plays out long term......

This is part of de-bloating hospital administration overhead, which is a huge part of the cost of our medical bills.

This is from 2004 and cites data from 1999, but --

USA wastes more on health care bureaucracy than it would cost to provide health care to all of the uninsured

[sanrene]

it doesn't even say that. its a electronic payment system...i use it to pay my bills now.

Not to the government. You use on-line banking to pay yours bills.