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Old 07-26-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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How many of us make huge, arrogant, and elitist assumptions?
Speak for yourself. This whole thread (and the dozens like it) is an example of arrogance -- of pretentious overreach into pompous bluster by those who have yet to master as much as the basic vocabulary of the topic.
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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Let's see...how many here do not understand the difference between global and local or that between climate and weather? Okay, hands down. How many do? What, none of you???
Apparently you do not understand the difference between changes in temperature measured over a short period of time, rather than relying upon the millions of years of the climate history to draw conclusions.

Those who have concluded that the earth is warming are doing so with the scientific equivilent of looking at a cup full of water and trying to draw conclusions about the ocean. It is bad science, which usually results in bad decisions.

Any good scientist will want definitive and conclusive evidence before acting upon the said "problem". The bottom line is that we actually do not know whether the long term trend is toward cooling or warming and if man has any impact at all- fact. The "science" for global warming is bad science fanned by politics. Further, we do not know, if the planet is actually warming, if man can take any action to reverse that trend. The fossil record suggests that climate changes are cyclical and mostly related to the changes in the eliptical orbit of the earth around the sun and changes in solar activity. That is what the actual science says.

Remember the "new ice age" in the early 1970s? What was causing it? Man. I guess we fixed that one too well! Maybe we need to make more pollution to cool the earth- maybe less. Maybe we have little impact on the whole "problem". Maybe it is not a "problem" at all. This whole issue is sophomoric nonsense that makes anyone with academic scientific knowledge blush with embarassment. It is uncomfortable to observe in the same fashion as watching a bad football team get anihilated. You feel bad for them, but embarassed at their ineptitude.
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Hey Honey...Don't forget to pick-up suntan lotion with all that Global Warming going on.....

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I don't understand why your total lack of scientific knowledge is amusing to you????
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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This has nothing to do with the global warming/climate change argument at hand.

We shouldn't have fought WW2 either, because what if that soldier was YOUR son?

Nothing to do with the global warming/climate change argument. You can be an environmentalist/conservationist and still reject the trendy Goretard term du jour.
well u are missing the point, when u mess with the environmental balance, mothernature is gonna smack you down trying to get equilibrium again......

in other words, your area may get colder instantaneously, because you have messed up another area, and consequentially causing temperature rises in other places as compensation.

eg Katrina or tsunamis killing southeast asians, you
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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Hawkeye2009.....good point
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Apparently you do not understand the difference between changes in temperature measured over a short period of time, rather than relying upon the millions of years of the climate history to draw conclusions.

Those who have concluded that the earth is warming are doing so with the scientific equivilent of looking at a cup full of water and trying to draw conclusions about the ocean. It is bad science, which usually results in bad decisions.

Any good scientist will want definitive and conclusive evidence before acting upon the said "problem". The bottom line is that we actually do not know whether the long term trend is toward cooling or warming and if man has any impact at all- fact. The "science" for global warming is bad science fanned by politics. Further, we do not know, if the planet is actually warming, if man can take any action to reverse that trend. The fossil record suggests that climate changes are cyclical and mostly related to the changes in the eliptical orbit of the earth around the sun and changes in solar activity. That is what the actual science says.

Remember the "new ice age" in the early 1970s? What was causing it? Man. I guess we fixed that one too well! Maybe we need to make more pollution to cool the earth- maybe less. Maybe we have little impact on the whole "problem". Maybe it is not a "problem" at all. This whole issue is sophomoric nonsense that makes anyone with academic scientific knowledge blush with embarassment. It is uncomfortable to observe in the same fashion as watching a bad football team get anihilated. You feel bad for them, but embarassed at their ineptitude.

wow! There's a lot of scientists using that cup of water theory hunh?
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:04 AM
 
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I don't understand why your total lack of scientific knowledge is amusing to you????

he probably thinks its a conspiracy to get Aryans to mate with the rest of us mongrels...after all blues eyes and blondes lead to more skin cancer, and natural selection
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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well u are missing the point, when u mess with the environmental balance, mothernature is gonna smack you down trying to get equilibrium again......

in other words, your area may get colder instantaneously, because you have messed up another area, and consequentially causing temperature rises in other places as compensation.

eg Katrina or tsunamis killing southeast asians, you
You people just never give up...constantly gloom & doom...sky is falling..unbelievable...
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:07 AM
 
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wow! There's a lot of scientists using that cup of water theory hunh?
herrrm, science usually starts with simple observations? like apples falling from a tree, or sun rising over the horizon?
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Thanks for posting another idiotic thread about this. We should start calling these the "dunce of the day threads". Okay professor, we will take you at your word. From now on we should be urged to spew as many noxious fumes and vile chemicals into the air as possible. In fact, we should do this in your neighborhood in particular. We should make sure all runoff of polluting waste gets into your local waters as we all know that mutated frogs are really not a sign of contaminated water, but progress.
I'm not a believer in global warming, but I'm with you 100 percent on curtailing all of the poison we spew into our atmosphere and into the earth.

Climate change? Sure. The earth's climate has always been in a constant state of flux.
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