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Old 07-29-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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Strange how Beck contradicts himself, first he says Obama has a "deep seated hatred for
white people or white culture" and towards the end when he meets some opposition to his statement he goes back and says he dosen't believe that Obama dislikes white people.

Which one is it?
what is white culture?
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Daily Kos: Maybe ConBauc can negotiate with him


Yes the guy with all those white people in his staff...friends with the white David Axlrod for years...ohh and a son of a white mother and raised by white grandparents.....i think we can stop wondering why the GOP is a complete joke
Anyone who believes Glen Beck probably believes in the Tooth Fairy
Beck had one imbecile on his show calling for Al Quieda to nuke an American City, Treason in my book
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:18 PM
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what is white culture?

Wonder Bread and bad dancing
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:41 PM
 
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Glen Back is a Republican. Consider the source - Faux News Channel- and leave it at that.
Republicans defend their people to the death...
or until they throw them them under the bus (George Bush, Glen Beck, etc, etc.)

Where's the republican/conservative moral values?
Why can't you say "I repudiate what he said, period"
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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what is white culture?
- St. Patrick's day
- Oktoberfest
- Scottish bagpipe
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:50 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure that there were a lot more than three sermons. I just think those three were the most inflammatory. I say this because of Reverend Wright's advocacy of Black Liberation Theology and his alignment with the thinking of James Cone and other Black Liberation Theologists as well as the things that I've read of the Church's web site especially before he changed it. There are also a lot of things he's said outside the church. Reverend Wright is pretty radical in his thinking and perhaps even somewhat militant and anti-white.
Many of Rev. Wright's sermons can be found on Youtube so that people would have no need to speculate. Also, why would you consider the supporters of Black Liberation Theology to be radical, militant, or anti-white?

Black Liberation Theology - "this theology maintains that African Americans must be liberated from multiple forms of bondage — social, political, economic and religious. This liberation involves empowerment and seeks the right of self-definition, self-affirmation and self-determination."

Black liberation theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:50 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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There is no white culture. No white person can even tell you what it is.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Many of Rev. Wright's sermons can be found on Youtube so that people would have no need to speculate. Also, why would you consider the supporters of Black Liberation Theology to be radical, militant, or anti-white?

Black Liberation Theology - "this theology maintains that African Americans must be liberated from multiple forms of bondage — social, political, economic and religious. This liberation involves empowerment and seeks the right of self-definition, self-affirmation and self-determination."

Black liberation theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Agreed, I attended a Pan-African church for many years, nowhere did we get a "kill whitey" sermon.

The program centered on personal resposibility, learn and research true history of Africa and America, look at circumstances of all colored people on every continent and the similarities of their situations to American blacks.

Contribution to community,family, and society.

Follow laws, take care of children, be a father, live the word of God.


Rev.Wright simply addressed some of the "real and true" history of the U.S.A.; for some people telling the truth if it's unpopular is akin to hating the country.

Go figure.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:27 AM
 
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Also, why would you consider the supporters of Black Liberation Theology to be radical, militant, or anti-white?
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

- James Cone

This sounds radical, anti-white and militant to me.

- Reel
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

- James Cone

This sounds radical, anti-white and militant to me.

- Reel
The whites referenced in this Cone quote from 40 years ago are people who where using Christianity to oppress African-Americans. They were using to the bible to justify a second class status for African-Americans. Whites who were refusing to worship with African-Americans. Cone is saying that no one needs to accept second class status. He is saying that if God really intended that then God should be resisted. However, Dr. Cone does not believe that God intended that anyone be marginalized. He believes all of Gods children are equal. The goal of the black community in this quote is one of equality for all people and ending the oppression of everyone.

Dr. Cone has been quoted as saying that Trinity UCC is the best example of a church implementing the theology he wrote about. Rev. Wright speaking about Black Liberation Theology at the National Press Club said the following.

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The prophetic theology of the black church is a theology of liberation; it is a theology of transformation; and it is ultimately a theology of reconciliation.


The Apostle Paul said, "Be ye reconciled one to another, even as God was in Christ reconciling the world to God's self."


God does not desire for us, as children of God, to be at war with each other, to see each other as superior or inferior, to hate each other, abuse each other, misuse each other, define each other, or put each other down. God wants us reconciled, one to another. And that third principle in the prophetic theology of the black church is also and has always been at the heart of the black church experience in North America.


When Richard Allen and Absalom Jones were dragged out of St. George's Methodist Episcopal Church in Philadelphia, during the same year, 1787, when the Constitution was framed in Philadelphia, for daring to kneel at the altar next to white worshipers, they founded the Free African Society and they welcomed white members into their congregation to show that reconciliation was the goal, not retaliation.
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The prophetic theology of the black church has always seen and still sees all of God's children as sisters and brothers, equals who need reconciliation, who need to be reconciled as equals in order for us to walk together into the future which God has prepared for us.
Reconciliation does not mean that blacks become whites or whites become blacks and Hispanics become Asian or that Asians become Europeans.
Reconciliation means we embrace our individual rich histories, all of them. We retain who we are as persons of different cultures, while acknowledging that those of other cultures are not superior or inferior to us. They are just different from us.
We root out any teaching of superiority, inferiority, hatred, or prejudice.
And we recognize for the first time in modern history in the West that the other who stands before us with a different color of skin, a different texture of hair, different music, different preaching styles, and different dance moves, that other is one of God's children just as we are, no better, no worse, prone to error and in need of forgiveness, just as we are.
Only then will liberation, transformation, and reconciliation become realities and cease being ever elusive ideals.
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