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Old 07-29-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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"The Oregon Health Plan will not cover chemotherapy unless there is a better than 5% chance it will help patients live for five more years. Patients who don't meet that standard get a letter denying coverage for chemo and suggesting comfort care, including pain relief and, potentially, doctor assisted suicide."
Silly facts.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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"The Oregon Health Plan will not cover chemotherapy unless there is a better than 5% chance it will help patients live for five more years. Patients who don't meet that standard get a letter denying coverage for chemo and suggesting comfort care, including pain relief and, potentially, doctor assisted suicide."
and like I stated above, in order to provide good preventative care, and optimal treatment for those who can live a long healthy life afterwards, treatment for terminal conditions with no hope of "cure", especially for the elderly, should not be a top priority! I have done everything in my power to make certain that I will be given palliative care, and no other treatment in this situation. . . too bad others cannot also agree to give the advantage to the young, rather than the old!

Most of these "older indiviuals" who want to remain alive until the very last moment that is physically possible, have kids and grandkids and great grandkids to consider. . . why is it me, with no children, stepchildren, nor even nieces and nephews who is putting the "next generation" first? Wierd!
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: California
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It all comes down to this; if I'm using my own money, money sitting in my bank accout, I can insist on anything I want.

If I'm using money from another source, an insurance company for example, I understand that I may not be able to get anything I want.

Anyone who wants to self-insure is free to do so.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: here
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... and if this person with a less than 5% chance of survival was given expensive treatment and died anyway, we would have heard about the cost to taxpayers...
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It all comes down to this; if I'm using my own money, money sitting in my bank accout, I can insist on anything I want.

If I'm using money from another source, an insurance company for example, I understand that I may not be able to get anything I want.

Anyone who wants to self-insure is free to do so.
absolutly correct!
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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Under privatized health care it's the insurance companies decide who lives and who dies. This is exactly why we need to reform health care.
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