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View Poll Results: Agree or disagree: When you demonize the other side, you make America a less civilized society
Strongly agree 28 62.22%
Somewhat agree 7 15.56%
Neither agree nor disagree 4 8.89%
Somewhat disagree 1 2.22%
Strongly disagree 5 11.11%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2009, 11:07 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i agree. when the titanic goes down the ice water does not respect 1st or 2nd class cabin it does not ask your political party b4 you go under. all flesh looks the same to a shark.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Obama playing field
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I wasnt aware it was ever civilized society? the beast just got a little more educated over the years, the leopard never really changed its spots, it just got a facelift to make it look rather more appealling to its prey.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:36 AM
 
Location: California
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There was nothing more horrific to me than the GOP national convention. These old white men mocking community organizers with big, belly busting guffaws. It was sickening and revealed that they truly have no concept of what it's like when a community loses its employment base.
The image of the overweight, huffing, puffing, red faced white man insisting they know what's best is one burned into my brain by a Baptist preacher in my youth. I always used to think about that when I saw the GOP players of the last several years and it did disgust me.
Not that they are all that way, or that some Dems don't look like that, but seeing you write this just made me laugh because I had the same thought.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Key West
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Originally Posted by Mike from back east View Post
I agree with the OP, but I gotta say that what I've seen in the last 20+ years in the GOP/right calling people all sorts of names, such as:
- Welfare Queens
- Welfare Liberals
- Tax and Spend Liberals
- Baby Killers and Infanticide
- Liberals (it's become a demonized dirty word with the GOP, who sneer it every chance they get)
- Socialists
- Communists
- Fascists

There are a lot of other demonizing tactics and language used by Karl Rove and the right the past decade or so. Recently, Glenn Beck, who shouldn't be allowed near a microphone, began calling our President a racist. Other rightwing mouthpieces have called anyone who disagrees with their agenda all sorts of names, like the ones above, etc.

I'm all for getting over the divisiveness, but the GOP needs to make amends and start the ball rolling. Perhaps Senator Graham's decent words for Sonja Sotomajor are a start, and the work this week by Senator Grassley and a few other GOP'ers to get a workable healthcare plan in place may be a further step towards better relations between the left and right. Truth is, MOST of us live towards the center of the spectrum, not out on the fringes.
And we all have seen the left use derogatory untrue terms for 20+ years like:

racist
bigot
trailer trash
white trash
hatemonger
wingnut
kkk member

to describe all of the right.
Only one WITHOUT partisan blinders can see the truth
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Key West
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Forget about compromising, that's not the issue.

You have every single right to stand up for your value and defend them.
The issue is the way to discuss issues.

Republicans always use the tactics of
"destroy the enemy before it destroy you"
Call it muslims, chinese, mexicans, socialists, democrats, pacifists, blacks, hispanics, californians, people in favor of universal health care, people that believe in government investing in our country, Hollywood and absolutely anybody that promotes an idea that is "left wing".

Doesn't matter who it is, it's always the same tactic
"Destroy them before they destroy us"
Democrats always use tactics of "talk down and use vicious verbal attacks and well as fear and hate" to belittle those who disagree with them. They then turn to their Hollywood mouthpiece to repeat the lies to a gullible America
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:11 AM
 
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Democrats always use tactics of "talk down and use vicious verbal attacks and well as fear and hate" to belittle those who disagree with them. They then turn to their Hollywood mouthpiece to repeat the lies to a gullible America
And it appears that the statements from both you and Dopo are perfect examples of how to demonize the other side.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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Whether a person demonizes or belittles the other side in a passive aggressive manner, the intent is the same which is to be partisan toward one party or ideaology, which is no different that a fan supporting a particular sports team. Whether you watch CNN or Fox News, the intent is the same regardless of the style in which one speaks. Rush Limbaugh may be more abrasive but when Anderson Cooper always ask questions that lead respondents to reflect negatively on the Republican party, the end result is the same.

It is unfortunate, but I wish people could look beyond supporting their particular "guy" and just call it like it is. The truth is there are valid points to both sides and if we continue to reflect on the negatives associated with either side in order to discredit them, we will never make progress. Instead it would be nice if people could be honest and admit their candidate or party has some weaknesses while the opposition has strengths. But politics is unfortunately like sports and people will remain loyal and thus argue in a manner that will always support their party. Sad! The reason for this is simple. If a politician or a media member says anything positive about the opposition or negative regarding their own party, they are not being loyal and will be unseated. Thus in an effort to protect their seat, they have to play the party lines.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mike from back east View Post
I agree with the OP, but I gotta say that what I've seen in the last 20+ years in the GOP/right calling people all sorts of names, such as:
- Welfare Queens
- Welfare Liberals
- Tax and Spend Liberals
- Baby Killers and Infanticide
- Liberals (it's become a demonized dirty word with the GOP, who sneer it every chance they get)
- Socialists
- Communists
- Fascists

There are a lot of other demonizing tactics and language used by Karl Rove and the right the past decade or so. Recently, Glenn Beck, who shouldn't be allowed near a microphone, began calling our President a racist. Other rightwing mouthpieces have called anyone who disagrees with their agenda all sorts of names, like the ones above, etc.

I'm all for getting over the divisiveness, but the GOP needs to make amends and start the ball rolling. Perhaps Senator Graham's decent words for Sonja Sotomajor are a start, and the work this week by Senator Grassley and a few other GOP'ers to get a workable healthcare plan in place may be a further step towards better relations between the left and right. Truth is, MOST of us live towards the center of the spectrum, not out on the fringes.
good thing that there is no demonizing by liberals, oops wait....

"the image of the overweight, huffing, puffing, red faced white man insisting they know what's best is one burned into my brain by a Baptist preacher in my youth. I always used to think about that when I saw the GOP players of the last several years and it did disgust me".

the truth is that you can't be in the middle really. liberal spending is destroying this country. people may not have seen it before but they should be able to see it clearly now. we have to stop borrowing and spending, or we won't even be able to afford the interest on the debt down the road. you can't keep spending and kick the can down the road forever.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:26 AM
 
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Rush Limbaugh may be more abrasive but when Anderson Cooper always ask questions that lead respondents to reflect negatively on the Republican party, the end result is the same.
You really believe that Rush Limbaugh and Anderson Cooper are two sides of the same coin?
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:30 AM
 
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the truth is that you can't be in the middle really.
Why not? Currently, more Americans call themselves independents than Democrats or Republicans.

Pollster.com: National Party Identification (ALL ADULTS)

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liberal spending is destroying this country.
Ah, yes, liberals are "destroying this country". That old saw.

It's ironic that you mocked Mike from back east for his demonization of conservatives, but then you turned around and did the exact same thing regarding liberals.
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