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not much of a private email when you send it to a major news paper
Exactly! Which is why my inquisitive mind has to wonder, why was this done? Sorry if I have a hard time buying this at face value. There has been a trend lately, to stir up racial tension. And just as the Gate's issue began to clear up, we get something new to talk about. Just a little to convenient.
I had the same opinion until I learned that it was a mass email that he sent out, not a private one. In addition, he sent his comments to a newspaper for publication.
Understood and I knew that from the article. It was still a non-official e-mail and he was representing his personal thoughts and not the Boston Police. The minute he puts on the uniform or uses the police e-mail, then he represents his employer and the citizens of Boston. If he spews that crap while on duty, then he should be canned. I just have a problem with an employer, especially the government, punishing people's private thoughts that are not expressed in an official capacity.
Understood and I knew that from the article. It was still a non-official e-mail and he was representing his personal thoughts and not the Boston Police. The minute he puts on the uniform or uses the police e-mail, then he represents his employer and the citizens of Boston. If he spews that crap while on duty, then he should be canned. I just have a problem with an employer, especially the government, punishing people's private thoughts that are not expressed in an official capacity.
Ah, okay. Well then I'm back to agreeing with you.
Sometimes I don't read things as closely as I should.
A Boston, Massachusetts, police officer who sent a mass e-mail in which he referred to Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. as "banana-eating" and a "bumbling jungle monkey" has been placed on administrative leave and faces losing his job
It's good that he is being held accountable for his actions.
Now if we could just hold some other racists accountable for their hate speech, the world would be a much nicer place.
“Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …
“They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. … I said from the beginning: He’s a politician; I’m a pastor. He’s got to do what politicians do.â€
Wright also said Obama should have sent a U.S. delegation to the World Conference on Racism held recently in Geneva, Switzerland, but that the president did not do so for fear of offending Jews and Israel.
When I was young one of the lessons I learned from my mom was to never put anything in writing that could be used against you. This was before the days of computers and instant-everything. It was also a lesson I had to teach my own kids when instant messaging and online blogging became fashionable (there was some trouble early on, catty girl things). This is something I've practiced my entire life and am constantly stunned by everyone that can't seem to grasp that idea.
When I was young one of the lessons I learned from my mom was to never put anything in writing that could be used against you. This was before the days of computers and instant-everything. It was also a lesson I had to teach my own kids when instant messaging and online blogging became fashionable (there was some trouble early on, catty girl things). This is something I've practiced my entire life and am constantly stunned by everyone that can't seem to grasp that idea.
I think you'd have to seriously withdraw from society if you don't put anything in writing that could be used against you. And you'd also have to avoid saying anything on video or audio.
I think you'd have to seriously withdraw from society if you don't put anything in writing that could be used against you. And you'd also have to avoid saying anything on video or audio.
I've managed quite nicely for 50 years now. Granted, I'm not a public figure so I don't have video/audio issues. But how hard is it to not make a fool of yourself in writing? I may say stupid things, or tell an off color joke, but I don't have to put pen to paper (or fingers to keyboard) and put it in writing. It's really not hard at all.
Exactly! Which is why my inquisitive mind has to wonder, why was this done? Sorry if I have a hard time buying this at face value. There has been a trend lately, to stir up racial tension. And just as the Gate's issue began to clear up, we get something new to talk about. Just a little to convenient.
I agree. I don't believe in coincidences even though they seem to happen all the time.
When I was young one of the lessons I learned from my mom was to never put anything in writing that could be used against you. This was before the days of computers and instant-everything. It was also a lesson I had to teach my own kids when instant messaging and online blogging became fashionable (there was some trouble early on, catty girl things). This is something I've practiced my entire life and am constantly stunned by everyone that can't seem to grasp that idea.
This is one of the best lessons my mom gave to me. Never put anything in writing you don't want others to read. I passed it along to my kids also.
If he said it, then he's got to accept responsibility. I think his thoughts are disgusting and I do not agree with his choice of words or his meaning.
Having said that... the question I would ask to all of our civil libertarian friends is what was illegal about what he did? Answer: Nothing.
Having said that...if he sent the mail off duty from his personal e-mail account, is it the business of the Boston Police? Answer: Nope.
I think he's an idiot, but he has the right to be an idiot just as much as Gates has the right to be an idiot. When we start punishing people because of their private (off duty and not in an official capacity) speech, isn't that a slippery slope?
What if his employment contract has a "good behavior" clause. Kind of like what is in some athlete's contracts that talks about behavior that is outside of working hours? That may be a factor in this case.
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